Horror Movie Podcast BONUS Ep. 105: The Essential Universal Monsters and The Mummy (2017) Preview

hmp-universal-monsters-artIn this BONUS episode of Horror Movie Podcast—which also serves as a trial run for the upcoming Universal Monsters Cast—Wolfman Josh and Dr. Shock discuss listener feedback from the HMP “Essential Universal Monsters” poll, give their personal classic Universal Horror recommendations, and give their initial thoughts on the teaser trailer and first poster for The Mummy (2017), as well as the potential for a new shared cinematic universe. Doc also brings his picks for the best monster movies of the 1930s that were not made by Universal Pictures.

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SHOW NOTES

I. Intro
—Where Jay at?
—Universal Monsters Cast
—Listener request from Dino-Machino

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[00:04:18] II. Results of Horror Movie Podcast “Essential Universal Monsters” Poll:
(gleaned from 96 respondents and 819 votes)

  1. Frankenstein (1931)
  2. Dracula (1931) -tie- The Wolf Man (1941)
  3. Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)
  4. The Invisible Man (1933) -tie- Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
  5. The Mummy (1932) -tie- Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)
  6. The Phantom of the Opera (1925)
  7. Frankenstein Meets The Wolf Man (1943)

*Retro Movie Geek Holiday Greeting!


[00:35:31] III. Additional Listener Recommendations from “Other” Votes:

—The Black Cat (Ian, Dark Mark, The Dude, The Gray Man)
—The Raven (Ian, The Dude, The Gray Man)
—Revenge of the Creature (Gatz, Dark Mark)
—The Creature Walks Among Us (Gatz)
—The Incredible Shrinking Man (Gatz)
—The Monolith Monsters (Gatz)
—The Old Dark House (Sal, Jonathan, Dark Mark)
—The Invisible Ray (Dark Mark)
—Murders in Rue Morgue (Dark Mark)


[00:51:43] IV. Additional Recommendations from the HMP Hosts:

—The Black Cat (Dr. Shock)
—The Raven (Dr. Shock)
—[Spanish] Dracula (Wolfman Josh, Dr. Shock)
—The Mummy’s Hand (Wolfman Josh, Dr. Shock)
—Werewolf of London (Wolfman Josh)
—House of Frankenstein (Wolfman Josh)
—Abbott and Costello Meet the Killer, Boris Karloff (Dr. Shock, Wolfman Josh)
—Abbott and Costello Meet the Mummy (Wolfman Josh)


[00:54:20] V. Dr. Shock’s 11 Essential Non-Universal Horror Movies of the 1930s
(with links to Dave’s written reviews at DVDInfatuation.com)

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931, Paramount), Doctor X (1932, Warner Bros), Freaks (1932, MGM), Island of Lost Souls (1932, Paramount), The Mask of Fu Manchu (1932, MGM), White Zombie (1932, United Artists), King Kong (1933, RKO), Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933, Warner Bros), The Walking Dead (1936, Warner Bros), Mad Love (1935, MGM), The Devil-Doll (1936, MGM)

*Movie Podcast Weekly Holiday Greeting!


[01:06:13] VI. The Mummy (2017) trailer and the Universal Monsters Universe
—Watch the trailer (here)

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[01:38:30] VII. Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending


JOIN US NEXT WEEK FOR: Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 106 — A Frankensteinian episode, where we cover several 2016 new releases and all sorts of random horror movies and topics!


LINKS FOR THIS EPISODE:

You can read all of Dave’s “Universal Horror” reviews (HERE) at DVDinfatuation.com

You can hear us discuss some of these classics in our Frankenstein Versus (Ep 83) discussion, our Dracula Versus (Ep 85) discussion, Dr. Shock’s tributes to Bela Lugosi (Ep 33) and Lionel Atwill (Ep 49) , our Horror Comedy (Ep 87) discussion, our Horror for Kids (Ep 97) discussion, and all the way back to the very beginning with Dr. Shock’s Top 10 Horror Movies (on Ep 02) list.

Thanks to listener Dino for getting this ball rolling. You can follow Dino on Twitter: @dinoticinelli

Vote in the final round of HMP’s SLASHER MADNESS (hosted by Kagan Breitenbach)

For the holiday season, be sure to listen to Black Friday – The Horrors of Consumerism (Ep 35)Christmas Horror 2013 (Ep 05) (Dead Snow, Devil’s Pass, Silent Night, Deadly Night, Black Christmas), Christmas Horror 2014 (Ep 37)

(P2, Christmas Evil, Saint, Gremlins, Wind Chill, The Last Winter), Christmas Horror 2015 (Ep 78) (Krampus, A Christmas Horror Story, Rare Exports, Silent Night Bloody Night).


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49 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast BONUS Ep. 105: The Essential Universal Monsters and The Mummy (2017) Preview

    • I know I’m a little late to the game here after just finishing listening to this episode but I wanted to throw in my 2 cents. Personally I’m not feeling very optimistic about these reboots either simply because everything I’ve seen points to them following the predictable Hollywood blockbuster path, which is unfortunate.

      That style is great for a simple popcorn action movie like Jurassic World or Indiana Jones, but when applied to a horror movie it doesn’t work. All fear is removed and the atmosphere is destroyed, mainly because the focus is in the wrong place. Instead Of focusing on the aspect of fear and tension it instead becomes about the action, the set pieces, the stunts, the explosions. It ceases to become about horror and instead morphs into a shallow CG laden, “badass” power fantasy.

      For me the trend of thinking it nessecary to Americanize, and more importantly to modernize every story also bores me to death. When I think of Dracula, or Frankenstein for instance I WANT that gothic, Victorian feel. I want that atmosphere. I want the castle, the accents, the era garb (and way of speaking). Dracula with cell phones, nano machines, dubstep, and slo motion action-splosions set to hip hop is truly awful in my opinion. It cheapens it. It dumbs it down, strips the essence away and repurposes it for a wide audience. It doesn’t respect the source material or the audiences intelligence. It’s just shallow and forgettable popcorn junk.

      Look no further than Van Helsing or Victor Frankenstein for an example. Neither captured any sort of spirit of the source material and were objectively underwhelming,

      If they really want to pull off a sort of “Universal Monster Avengers” that I could stomach then look at the way they did it in Penny Dreadful. Sure they took a lot of liberties, but they also managed to maintain the proper style and feel of the subjects and it was much MUCH more compelling to me.

      • Additional thought. If they are attempting to appeal to people who are fans of Avengers type movies I don’t think it will work because, well, they have The Avengers…and the 1000 or so other movies in the Marvel universe that is in full saturation mode.

        And if they sacrifice the horror elements to do this then they are at the same time going to alienate the horror fans very quickly.

        That basically leaves the most likely audience being people who will watch whatever happens to be playing at the theater at the moment, and the curious. Not exactly huge moneymaking potential

        • Heck yeah, Tiamat, I’m on board with what you’re saying. Penny Dreadful got it right. Give me gothic victorian horror. Cargo planes make me yawn through tears.

  1. ATTN any horror fans with no plans on Sunday night:

    We’ve been talking about doing another unofficial “HMP After Dark” live-viewing with the online community where we all start a movie at the same time and live-tweet it in a private Twitter chat.

    Last time we did The Lost Boys. This time we are doing a Christmas-themed horror movie. We wanted to do a film that was easily accessible to most people so we chose A Christmas Horror Story, which is currently streaming on Netflix in the U.S.

    If you don’t have Netflix (or Netflix doesn’t stream A Christmas Horror Story in your country), it is also available for a $3.99 digital rental on most online streaming platforms.

    We hope you’ll join us!

    DATE: Sunday, December 18th, 2016
    PLACE: Twitter. Follow Josh @IcarusArts and tell him you want to be added to the private group. He will add you at…
    TIME: 7pm PST (8pm MST, 9pm CST, 10pm EST)
    MOVIE: A Christmas Horror Story (available on Netflix and other platforms)

  2. After watching the trailer for The Mummy, I have even less interest in seeing it than I had before. I’m not even entirely sure which group is supposed to be appealed to this movie. For me, none of it looked like horror. It’s just another action/adventure movie that for someone that is a horror fan, I don’t have interest in. It’s the same exact reason why I still haven’t seen any of those Brendan Fraser Mummy movies – awful looking CGI and just generally a movie that didn’t have any horror look to it.

    At the same time, is Universal appealing to those action/adventure fans that enjoyed the Fraser movies? I’d also say no because for those fans, this movie just feels like a cheap remake of those previous ones.

    So if it’s not geared towards horror fans or fans of the 1999 Mummy, who is it geared towards? I can only assume that the targeted audience are those that went to see The Wolfman remake, I Frankenstein, Victor Frankenstein, Dracula Untold, and other similar movies. Which going off of US box office numbers, sure isn’t a lot of people.

    I do not understand why it’s so difficult to get an actual horror movie (As opposed to action/adventure) with some of these classic characters anymore. We’ve seen time after time in recent years that moviegoers do not have any interest in seeing action/adventure films with classic monsters. Why keep making them? At least with something like the Twilight series, they had an intended demographic. Sure, it wasn’t horror fans, but they had a demographic and they showed up in huge numbers.

    For me, personally, the other big issue I have with the trailer besides the lack of horror feel is a mummy that isn’t under wraps. It’s the same exact problem I had with the original 1932 Boris Karloff film. If the mummy isn’t under wraps, it’s not a mummy film that I have any desire to watch. It’d be like watching a werewolf film with hairless werewolves. You’re missing a key ingredient that makes the monster what it is.

    Then again, it’s a big budget “Horror” movie with A-list actors. By now, I imagine horror fans have been conditioned into assuming that any recent-ish horror with A-list stars is going to be a dud to it being so common (Maybe not always the case, but more times than not, it is).

    • Sal wrote: “Is Universal appealing to those action/adventure fans that enjoyed the Fraser movies? I’d also say no because for those fans, this movie just feels like a cheap remake of those previous ones.”

      Personally, I think this looks much better than those Brendan Fraser films. Admittedly, I never watched those either. They looked like cheap knock-offs of Indiana Jones to me. This looks more interesting, IMO. And at least they are TALKING about these films connecting to the classic Universal world. It never even occurred to me that the Fraser films were intended to be related to the Universal Monsters until Universal re-issed the original films on DVD with Stephen Sommers interviews for Van Helsing.

      This film is actually convincing me, for the first time, to try out those Fraser films. Stephen Sommers is such a bad director. His Jungle Book with Jason Scott Lee might be his best effort. And Brendan Fraser is bad in everything I’ve seen him in, save Encino Man. He’s so goofy looking. Even more so with that goober haircut he has in The Mummy.

      Sal wrote: “We’ve seen time after time in recent years that moviegoers do not have any interest in seeing action/adventure films with classic monsters. Why keep making them?”

      This is actually an excellent point. How have they not learned anything from Van Helsing, I Frankenstein, and Dracula Untold? They have the entirely wrong formula. Why do they expect the result to be any different? Do they think they are just going to do the same thing better? Underworld as opposed to all of the Underworld sequels? It’s not enough. I am so sick of action/horror. I really had hoped that was dead. If that’s what all of these films become, I’m going to be very disappointed.

      I wish Cruise would bring in Neil Jordan and they would take some cues from Interview with a Vampire, instead.

      • I unapologetically love the 1999 Mummy movie. (The one exception is the level of ditziness that they assigned to Rachel Weisz’s character.) It has everything. There are some yuks, some two-fisted fight scenes, and some scary moments. And the actors were clearly having way too much fun. When my kids asked for a monster movie last Halloween, this was the movie that I showed them. The sequels went dumb, and then dumber, but the first one was very enjoyable.

        I’m taking a wait-and-see approach to this new one (so very Canadian of me). I’m good with horror, and I’m good with action/horror, as long as it is done *well.*

        • I like The Mummy (1999) as well, but like Josh, it didn’t occur to me that it was even a remake until someone told me. As an old school Universal fan I don’t have much desire to see the new stuff. The new stuff is so different from the old films that’s it hardly comparable. I haven’t even seen Van Helsing yet. Also, I still haven’t watched the trailer for The Mummy (2017) so I’m not very enthusiastic. The Wolfman (2010) at least captured some of the aesthetic and horror of the old films. I like Dracula Untold too.

          Starting the reboot with The Mummy (2017) is stupid. It’s not only going to be compared to the original run but even more so the Fraser films. The Mummy story lends itself to lots of action; exotic far off places, archeological digs, Egyptian mythology and magic.

          The Invisible Man could be a great remake, his transition into insanity could create violent killings and horror. There would be no limit to the effects like there was in 1930.

          The Creature From the Black Lagoon would be a good remake because it hasn’t been done yet and the underwater scenes would be much easier to film. This story, though, could also have lots of action.

          Personally, I would be excited to see a remake that is styled like the golden age universal movies. I want a black and white film with german expressionism. Sets would be on a sound stage or the Universal back lot, like the originals. I’d even love some painted backgrounds and a score that quotes the originals. Young Frankenstein and Frankenweenie (2012) do a good job of capturing the original look but they’re not serious horror.

          • “Is it any good?”

            It’s been too long for me to give a good answer. I haven’t seen it since it was in theaters. The visuals were very impressive, but if I remember correctly (and anyone who has seen it more recently please correct me if I’m wrong), they wanted to work with the idea that invisibility created a lack of consequences, allowing humanity’s inherent vicious tendencies free rein. But what they ended up doing was skipping (or at least terribly accelerating) the moral descent, so that he went from zero to slasher almost immediately. That made it seem more like the invisibility process messed up his brain, rather than a good exploration of Hobbesian moral pessimism.

          • I remember really wanting to like, but ultimately disliking, Hollow Man at the time. I’m more open-minded now, so I’d be willing to give it another shot. I remember that the FX were a big selling point at the time, but I’m sure they don’t hold up. Y2K-era CGI versus what they could do now?

            But I don’t think there has been a good take on this concept in recent years. Even John Carpenter did it! That was awful.

            Now, where is Sal to try to force Harry Potter into a horror discussion? Haha

      • I’m really surprised you had a positive reaction to the new Mummy trailer, Josh. I’m totally with Sal on this, I think it looks awful. No sense of the quiet, ominous atmosphere that’s pre-requisite for a ghoul as shambling yet relentless as a Mummy. And that bit where Tom Cruise is screaming as the plane crashes seemed almost parodic.

        To me it looks like a generic modern “dark” superhero movie more than anything else, though I guess a “Supervillain” movie would be more apt as that seems to be what they’ve turned the character into. She looks like a lesser bad guy from a DC film, strolling through the streets and ushering the destruction of a major city. I’m sick of every film having to outdo the last with regards to massive yet impotent scenes of destruction, stupidly powerful characters and ridiculously high stakes. I think it’s incredibly rare for a horror film to work properly when it’s blown up to this kind of scale but Hollywood just doesn’t seem interested in making smaller more precise films these days. Just amputate all the intimacy and tension and atmosphere and replace with ‘splosions and plane crashes and super powerful beings and ineffectual military dudes. Ugh.
        I would not be surprised if the plot hinges around some convenient McGuffin artefact that Tom Cruise fiddles with at the end sending a big beam of blue light up into the sky above a city and sucking the Mummy back into imprisonment. It seems that obvious to me that they’re trying to recreate the Universal monsters in the fashion of the DC and Marvel cinematic universes rather than actual pay respect to the classic films.

        • Gah, probably should have listened to the episode before I wrote this because Josh sounds less impressed than I gathered from the comments and picks up on a lot of the same stuff I got from the trailer, as well as reading out my previous rants of jaded cynicism. He just has more faith and hope in his big Wolfman heart than I do.

    • I’m not even going to watch the trailer. I’ve learned the hard way that trailers too often mislead and/or ruin the best parts of a movie. Like Professor Headbutt says below, I’m going to just wait and see. I probably will see it but won’t hold my breath for it being that good. Still, who knows? Maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised?

      It’s a mystery to me, too, who they’re targeting for these films. Perhaps families–parents who want to take their kids to family-friendly horror and maybe introduce them to the old school monsters? Have other action/horror films made with the same audience in mind? The 1999 Mummy and its sequels strike me this way, but I’m not so sure about some of the others like Dracula Untold.

      And kudos for being willing to take issue with the 1932 original. That’s probably one of my least favorite Universal monster films. I never thought about it being for the reason you mention (the mummy’s look) but that’s probably one of them. I actually enjoyed all the sequels much more, as campy as they got.

      • I really don’t think they care about the properties or understand the fans of those properties enough to be targeting “parents who want to take their kids to family-friendly horror to introduce them to introduce them to the old-school monsters” as you said. The Mummy may be the exception, knowing what a fan her is of the classic films. Perhaps his Van Helsing as well. Definitely not Dracula Untold. I think kids films like Hotel Transylvania and Frankenweenie have been far more successful in that front. We should definitely discuss this on the Universal Monsters Cast.

        • Unfortunately, I think you’re right. But to clarify, I’m not only talking about very young kids. I’m also thinking pre-teens/early teens. I guess I’m just wondering if they’re trying to make these as appealing to as a wide of an audience as possible (kids, teens, adults); “safe enough” for youngsters, but scary/suspenseful enough for older fans.

          • Yeah, I could see them thinking the action will pull mainstream teens into a monster movie. It certainly worked with films like Blade and Underworld.

            To your point about deciding not to watch the trailer, if these really were the best moments of the film, I really don’t even want to see it. So, I guess I’m hoping there is much more to it.

  3. I was underwhelmed by the trailer as well, but I just watched the behind the scenes clip that Tom Cruise just tweeted out. It gives me more hope.

    One of the things that I absolutely loved about the Stephen Sommers film is that it put you right in the heart of Egypt both ancient and of the early 20th century. It had an Indian Jones feeling to it. I feel like a good mummy movie needs to have Egypt at the heart of it. Not the US.

    Some of that behind the scenes footage showed us a bit more of Africa, more Egyptian ruins, and more ancient Egyptian looking people. I want more of that in my mummy movie!

    • That’s a good point, Kagan. Alex Kurtzman talked about the authenticity of the world. More Africa sounds great. That was not high on my list of things that I was worried about, but it does make a huge difference.

      I agree that the behind-the-scenes clip makes the movie look MUCH cooler. It looks like a movie I’d probably enjoy (although not rush out to if it weren’t The Mummy). I’m still not sure it looks like a monster movie, it defintely does not look like a horror movie, and I’m also not sure they understand FEAR. They could stand to take a look at Jay of the Dead’s T&A. Haha

      I liked the tone at the beginning of the clip before it just started looking like an action movie again. And I LOVED hearing Alex Kurtzman say that “we owe the audience a monster movie.”

      I do like Tom Cruise and at least we know he will take the material seriously. I just wish the material was more rooted in horror.

      For anyone interested in the Mummy behind-the-scenes clip, which I’d recommend, you can find it on Tom Cruise’s Twitter, here:

      https://twitter.com/TomCruise/status/805788899507249153

      • Wolfman writes: “I do like Tom Cruise and at least we know he will take the material seriously. I just wish the material was more rooted in horror.”

        I’m with ya 100%, my friend.

  4. I loved the episode and hearing perspectives on some of the classics that I had not seen in quite a while (decades in some cases). I also appreciated the follow up list of movies not from universal, as sometimes they get lost in the shuffle. I am also wondering if an extension of this episode would be examining the Fu Manchu movies, both the 1932 Boris Karloff film and the later Christopher Lee versions, and comparisons of the two. I enjoyed both, and they are interesting to examine not only from a horror perspective but a social perspective, in how minorities and people from certain parts of the world are/have been portrayed in the genre. Just a thought…

    • Great idea, Bill. That could be an interesting exploration as we get into the tangential discussions on the upcoming Universal Monsters Cast. Hoping to launch that at the beginning of January and talking a lot about different approaches to tackling these films.

      I agree that Dave’s list was a nice addition.

    • I loved Dr. Shock’s list! There are a couple of films on there I still need to see.

      Here’s a list of my favorite 1930’s non-universal horror films…
      1. Freaks (1932)
      2. King Kong (1933)
      3. White Zombie (1932)
      4. Vampyr (1932)
      5. Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933)
      6. M (1931)
      7. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931)
      8. Doctor X (1932)
      9. The Devil Doll (1936)
      10. The Vampire Bat (1933)
      Honorable Mention: The Most Dangerous Game (1932)

  5. Wow, thanks for doing this guys! Loads of awesome recommendations. I’m going to start pruning my massive 80+ film list of Universal horrors on Letterboxd, and start with the top 10 poll result winners. Assuming those go well and I’m in on Universal horror, I’ll move on to the additional recommendation picks.

    Thanks again!

  6. As we head into 2017, I was wondering if anyone else had any cinema-centric New Years resolutions planned for next year.

    I’m hoping to cover a lot of my classic blindspots, which is what sparked my question about the essential Universal Monster movies. I’m also planning a Hitchcock marathon, as well as Psycho and Exorcist marathons (I’ve seen the original Psycho and the first two Exorcist movies, but that’s it). Possibly more marathons to come, but figured I’d start with those four.

    • Oh man, I can’t wait to hear your take on the Psycho sequels. The second one is excellent and the third, while more a generic slasher, is still a lot of fun. I also highly recommend Pin as a sort of unofficial but tangential addition to the marathon, simply based on how thematically similar and obviously indebted it is to Psycho.

      • As an appreciator of the apparently over-done killer backstory, in a film like Rob Zombie’s Halloween, I’m actually a rare apreciator of Psycho IV. I also love the story structure. And Bates Motel Season 1 would be worth a look as well.

        • I’ll keep Pin and Bates Motel in mind. Want to get through the sequels first, though, and see what I think. The second film, in particular, has such a great cult following that I hope they live up to the hype.

  7. In response to the episode I watched The Invisible Man, and wow was I impressed. I had watched many of the Universal classic over the years but somehow this film had eluded me. Claude Rains put in a very good performance, and I felt the movie was well written and still hols up very well. Film students of today could learn something from the effects/makeup in this film. Is underrated in the genre as far as I am concerned. I read they are doing an update version in 2018 with Johnny Depp. Anyone have any information concerning this one? Am not thrilled with Johnny Depp, as I feel he has a tendency to over act, but I remain optimistic. Anyone else excited for it?

    • We talked about the Johnny Depp casting at the end of this podcast when we were covering The Mummy trailer and the emerging Universal Monsters universe. Unless Depp’s recent trouble in his personal life proves to be a problem for him in Hollywood the way it was for Mel Gibson for about a decade, I think the deal is sealed. Personally, I love the idea of him as The Invisible Man. I get that there is Depp fatigue and he can be a bit much after awhile, but we all know that he can be fantastic. I think he suffered from the same thing as M Night Shyamalan. You surprise people a few times and it’s great, but then you try to keep doing it and suddenly it’s looked at as a gimmick. You start to look like a parody of yourself. Personally, I think this is the best casting news we’ve heard from this new franchise reboot.

      So glad you liked the original, Bill. I’m with you. Really surprisingly good.

    • If anybody complains at you about the length of some of these episodes, DO NOT LISTEN. Four hours of awesome just means more awesome. Most of us will have to listen in several sittings, but that’s why God created pause buttons.

  8. Hi all, I have a question that is pretty off-topic (though it does relate to Dino’s idea of a “blind spot”). This may have already been addressed in an episode – my apologies if so. I would be curious to know how your parents, or how your upbringing, effects the way you watch horror movies. See, I love horror movies and I always thought I had seen a lot of them. The recent slasher episodes revealed a major blind spot for me, though: SLASHERS. Like, ALL of them. Looking back I see that my parents were cool with me watching all kinds of horror movies, but not slashers. So for some weird, unconscious reason, I’ve never considered watching slasher movies. I’m going through all these classics for the first time and it’s like a whole new world has opened up. Has anything like this happened to anyone? Is it fair to blame my parents, or might there be another reason for my strange subconscious avoidance of an entire subgenre? Do I need to visit a psychiatric professional to hash out these important issues?

    ps. I’m 40, I just watched the original Black Christmas for the first time, and it totally freaked my old ass out.

    • Clint, I’m sure we all have our “blind spots.” I’m going back through old episodes – apologies if you’ve already heard this – and Wolfman Josh had never watched The Exorcist – he refused to watch it because he thought it would freak him out too much. He finally watched it in 2014 and you can hear his initial reactions on Episode 38. He also refused to watch In the Mouth of Madness, one of my favorites, and I’m curious to hear if he ever covers this in his “Wolfman Got Nards” segment.

      Anyway, I share your blind spot in regard to slashers. Growing up, I watched entries from the major franchises – Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm St., and Child’s Play. But for whatever reason, I did not watch some of the other classics. Only in the last few years have I seen Prom Night, Terror Train, and a few others. I still haven’t seen classics such as Sleepaway Camp and Maniac.

      I’m not sure why I missed these when younger. Honestly, I don’t remember seeing them in the video store when I would rent movies, even I was a teen. My parents didn’t really monitor what I watched too much, so I don’t think it was that. From what I can tell, it was just that they weren’t available.

      • Hi AnDread, thanks so much for the response! Sounds like we had similar experiences – and I’m the same in that I’m only now seeing many of these popular classics. – C

    • I missed a lot of the classic 80s horror due to parental meddling (which I totally understand now that I have kids), so one of the benefits of HMP has been to provide encouragement and motivation to fill in my own blind spots. When the crew did their Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, and Phantasm franchise reviews, I was tracking the movies down online and watching them to keep up with the episodes. Whenever the hosts mention their admiration for a classic bit of cinema, I make a note to look it up. In 2016 I watched for the first time: Pumpkinhead, Suspiria, Phenomenon, Salem’s Lot, Prince of Darkness, Braindead (aka Dead Alive), Nightbreed, and Mimic. Even though the hosts haven’t gotten into this franchise, I also sent myself off on a Howling binge, since I had only seen the first one (I only made it to Number Three. Hachi machi, those things got real bad real quick). Slashers really aren’t my thing (I’m the opposite of Jay: not big on slashers, but loves me some supernatural horror. So what slashers I do enjoy are typically the ones with supernatural elements), but Motel Hell got such rave reviews, I’ve added it to my list.

      And that’s not counting the more recent horror films that I watched based on the our host’s reviews.

      I’m having a ton of fun filling in the gaps in my horror education. Keep it up, guys!

      • Thanks for sharing, Professor Headbutt! I’m with you on the supernatural horror movies, and maybe that plays a bigger part in why I haven’t seen as many slashers. But, man, I’m having a blast taking suggestions from HMP and watching these gems that I’ve missed. I get super stoked thinking that there are probably movies, or whole genres, that I’m STILL not aware of that are going to blow my mind one day. – c

  9. Sorry really late coming to the board on this one, but man I totally loved this discussion! These old movies are so perfect for cold winter nights the atmosphere the nostalgia the innocent creepiness is so satisfying to me.

    Again great work chaps thanks for all the suggestions. I have seen a few of these before but now have a good selection of films to cozy up to that I have yet to experience, which is awesome.

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