Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 014: Oculus (2014) and Afflicted (2014) and BillChete’s Big News and The Hills Have Eyes Remakes and Jan-Gel

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In this epic Frankensteinian episode of HORROR MOVIE PODCAST, where we’re Dead Serious About Horror Movies, we bring you the exclusive announcement of BillChete’s big news! We also break some exciting news about our next episode. We also bring you a review of “Oculus” and “Afflicted,” as well as “The Hills Have Eyes” (2006), “The Hills Have Eyes II (2007),” and two of the “Jan-Gel” movies, unfortunately… (Due to the tight deadline for posting such a massive episode, we don’t have our usual, in-depth show notes listed — though they will be forthcoming this week. However, we have important links below.)

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99 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 014: Oculus (2014) and Afflicted (2014) and BillChete’s Big News and The Hills Have Eyes Remakes and Jan-Gel

  1. Gah, I keep trying to listen to this but it keeps on crashing my flash player. Anyone know what the deal is? I just tried listening to an earlier episode and it worked fine.

      • Sorry about that, David. Yeah, this particular episode is more than 8 hours long! So, it might be better to simply download this one onto your computer (as an FYI to everyone else), instead of using the player.

        Sorry about the length. I was only expecting a 5-hour episode! I promise not to do this to our listener friends anymore.

        Thanks for being patient with me. And thanks for listening.
        Jay of the Dead

        • Hey no need to apologise at all Jay. I’ve recently exhausted all the other episodes on this site and have been hollow and despondent without horror talk to soothe my brain so a new 8 plus hours of listening is a wonderful surprise!

        • My first post to you guys and I would just like to say how much I enjoy listening to your show. Best horror podcast out there, keep up the good work guys.

    • Hi HDIITO
      No luck yet with figuring out whether the blu ray version of Attack of the werewolves is region free or not. No region at all is given on the cover which is kinda strange.

      • Thanks for the look out Mr. Bad Things! I’m sure it will be available sooner or later. I’ve been dying to see it for a while. Like the practical effects it seems to use.

        Thanks again and maybe when it is available, the guys can cover it on the cast?

        • They do have it on UK itunes and it’s simple enough to have an account. I’ve got an American one set up so I can get those earlier US releases. Let me know if you want details of how to do it, might come in handy for other European films you may have always wanted to get hold of

  2. Just found the podcast and it’s so awesome to hear people talk about my favorite horror flicks, and turn me on to movies I have not seen. Thank you for taking time out of your day to do this podcast.

  3. Wow jay you paint me to only like one type of movie ,which is not true . I like movies pulp fiction and lean on me. I don’t get the same impact when I see a drama at movies then say an action or horror movie , I can wait for a drama to come out on DVD or Netflix to look at . I know one thing for sure m.night sumalagdingdong’s are all one trick ponies and if you can’t see twist in the village in the first 20 minutes in the movie you are kind of slow . And I think nosfuratu is a classic movie . And I want to read this on the next show .

      • I saw the twist coming in The Village and it made me give up on Shamlamadingdong entirely. Haven’t watched one of his flicks since. HOWEVER: I’ve been thinking. I need to rewatch it because what if it wasn’t a twist and my expectations were skewed? I don’t remember.

        Jay has swayed me to look at the movie again.

        • For me, the problem is that he was committed to the twists and that everyone was on the lookout for them. It’s still a very enjoyable film in many ways. I will say, however, you picked a great time to stop watching.

        • I think it was a twist. I think it’s a good, not great film. And I’m personally very fond of The Happening even though it has some serious dialogue issues but as for the hatred for the story itself, I don’t see how anyone could love The Twilight Zone but not appreciate what Shyamalan was going for.

    • Jay loves to paint people into corners with the broadest of strokes when it comes to their taste in movies, Willis. And we love to do it to him as well.. It’s all in good fun.

  4. Jay, I was worried when it sounded like you would come in higher on Hills Have Eyes 2, and I breathed a sigh of relief when I heard 5.5.

    You guys didn’t mention something from that film that I absolutely hate that should’ve been pointed out. It’s the one thing I remember from the theater experience so many years ago and I’m gonna vent.

    I’m calling you.

    • Josh, I thought the Netflix algorithm(?) existed solely to suggest movies to viewers based upon our entered star ratings on the website? From what I’ve heard, we enter our ratings and the system makes best guesses as to how we might rate other films? If that’s not the case, I want to know!

      And Jay, I’m with you guys on pretending certain movies have nothing to do with our favorites or classics when they’re no good. I thought what you were getting at when you said ‘taint’ was that it affected how you view the original film as if it could change the quality of an original.

      For instance, Halloween Resurrection (and 4, 5 and 6) will never actually change the quality of the first film because they are all separate pieces of work. They may have story tied to the original, but if you can’t see the film for what it’s worth apart from lesser efforts that come after it, then we’re no longer viewing the film objectively. That’s what I was getting at.

      • It’s kind of like saying “Halloween 4 sucked so now the first Halloween isn’t as good now.” That doesn’t work.

      • For your personal use of Netflix, you are probably right on, Levi. As a Netflix viewer they help Netflx find recommendations for you. I’m just saying, as a filmmaker, it also impacts how much Netflix pays you for your movies and how long they pay your for.

  5. Oh, and I was just saying what I did about the rating system because it helped me to better understand some of Jay’s “low” ratings. When I thought about it, and 6 could equal three stars and then that’s not such a low rating. It seems a travesty at first but brought things into better perspective for me. Now I won’t be so shocked when Jay throws a 6 out there for something I love.

    It’s a coping mechanism.

      • It is so confusing, Josh! And his scores do feel pretty low like you say. But I am trying to think about it the way he does, and then it sort of makes sense… sort of haha.

  6. NO NO No No No…. Jay/ DR. Shock what did you do?……….. I just played a hockey tournament over the weekend and carpooled with a freind… When it was my turn to drive I played some of your podcast… I think you know where this is going. (my buddy is not even a horror fan really and definitly doesn’t listen to podcasts)…….. Weeeeeellllll this morning at work, he approaches me and tells me he bought Jan Gel from Amazon for 6 bucks!…. LOOK WHAT YOU GUYS STARTED hahaha

  7. Jay, you and Josh should at some point stream a film on Netflix called Plus One (+1). Picture Project X with sudden and unexplained doppelgängers mixed with a bit of a siege narrative. It’s around a 7 but u recommend it cause it’s really pretty interesting. Those scenes when a person first looks themself in the eyes are intense.

    • Great call Hammer! I was going to recommend this one as well. I was really scratching my head as to how this movie was going to resolve itself by the end. I’d rate it at 7.5

      • It’s a pretty good watch, but I would say it’s not a priority. While I do agree that the premise is an interesting one, the movie never goes as far as it should have. The moral questions it asks are kind of interesting, but it’s nothing that hasn’t been explored in better ways by other films. If you guys liked +1 I recommend Timecrimes and Triangle. I give +1 a 6, Triangle a 9, and Timecrimes a 10.

        • I’ll give them a shot. I just thought the siege/body snatcher combo would be something the guys would find interesting.

          • I bought time crimes and triangle blind off the recs it got. I wanted to check out +1, but it looks like I should slide that down priority wise.

  8. Jay, I am really glad that you did not go along with that mess that was being said about Wes Craven. I would have questioned your sanity. He does not have a rape fetish. If I named every horror movie with sexual violence and/or rape in them we’d be here til next year. Without him we would not have Freddy or Ghostface. To those dissing him just think about that. And One Trick Pony? No one was raped in either of those movies and they are probably his most successful. Here are just a few horror movies where there are rapes that he had nothing to do with I Spit On Your Grave, Halloween 2007, American Mary.

    • Even if it was his one trick, it’s still highly influential. I hesitate to agree that there would be no Ghostface without Craven since he didn’t write that one, but there would certainly be no Freddy and that film is one of the most unique and intelligent horror movies ever. But I just truly think there’s no way you can classify Craven as hit and miss if you don’t also classify Hooper, Carpenter and many others as such also.

    • Wes Craven has performed both writing AND directing duties on 12 movies, by my count, not counting one short film. Of those, eight have rape or references to rape (and one only looks as if a rape is about to happen.)

      He has written 15 projects (including those 12 previously mentioned and excluding the short film and a TV sitcom). Of those, 10 have rape or references to rape).

      While there is no onscreen rape in Elm St. or Scream, to say no one was raped in those movies is not 100% accurate.

      Freddy was originally written (by Craven) as a child molester (rapist), which was changed last minute to murderer. Freddy is also said to be the product of gang rape.

      The crux of the Scream movies is the rape and murder of Maureen Prescott, Sidney’s mother. (Though Craven did not write these).

      I like Wes Craven’s movies, but he does tend to rely on sexual assault quite heavily as a story (or back story) element. So much so that I daresay no one else could rival him for their inclusion of that element so consistently throughout their body of work. That’s what I was trying to point out. Perhaps “One Trick Pony” was a poor choice of words.

      1972 The Last House on the Left (Rape)
      1975 Angela, the Fireworks Woman (Rape)
      1977 The Hills Have Eyes (Rape)
      1981 Deadly Blessing (attempted rape)
      1984 A Nightmare on Elm Street (Freddy was originally written as a child molester/rapist)
      1985 The Hills Have Eyes Part II (audience tricked into thinking a rapist is about to attack girl)
      1991 The People Under the Stairs (inbreeding rape of Alice not shown but implied)
      2010 My Soul to Take (reference to forced sex)

      1987 A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (writer- nurse raped “hundreds of times”)
      1996 Scream (not written by Craven, but Sidney’s mother was raped and murdered in back story)
      2007 The Hills Have Eyes 2 (writer- rape)

      • Well, to be honest One Sick Puppy, I’ve gone on record as saying in realistic terms, rape might be underused in horror films, so I guess I’m totally fine with Craven going back to it. But I also think when we include implied or referenced sexual attack then we’re expanding the use of rape significantly across the board in horror films.

        • who cares! he does not have a rape fetish nor is he anymore hit or miss than any other director. and I was not referring to implied rapes or sexual violence. i was talking about scenes where actual rapes are depicted.

          • While I do think it’s unfair to go calling Wes Craven a rape fetishist I think it’s hard to deny that it is a common element in several of his films and probably at a higher ratio than most directors.

            That being said I don’t think that his use of rape as a story device reflects on his character negatively. It could very well be that he considers rape such a loathsome crime that he feels it is a worthy component in a genre that has always pushed the boundaries of what society would deem “good taste” and that is very much rooted in an exploration of humanities darker side.

            As far as him being a hit or miss director, that’s totally subjective. For me, that description holds water because I’ve only enjoyed about 50% of his work that I’ve seen. You’ve got to give me a lot of credit for Nightmare on Elm Street though. That’s got to be one of the most original and brilliant ideas to come out of the horror genre.

          • In that last paragraph I meant to say “give HIM a lot of credit for Nightmare on Elm Street” not “give ME a lot of credit”.

            Unfortunately I’m not actually Wes Craven.

  9. Epic show guys!! Im still making my way though the episode but since you guys are on the subject of the Hills Hve Eyes remake and after just seeing Wither for the first time last week which is a total hommage or ripoff of Evil Dead, depending on your opinion. As fans of horror do you ever find you’re more apt to give a harder or lower rating to a remake in comparison to a movie you see as paying hommage or ripping off a predecessor but is a little more coy in doing so?

  10. So I’ve been using letterboxd for the last couple of months to rate and log movies I’ve seen in the last year and LOVE IT!! I find its a great way to keep track of what I’ve seen lately. I’m curious to know if any other listeners use the site as well and share what they’ve recently seen. If so share your account cause I’m interested to see what other listeners have been watching. Here’s my diary link….

    • Here’s a list of ratings of some movies ive seen recently.

      The den – 7.5 stars – a found footage horror worth checking out.

      Play misty for me – 6 stars – Clint Eastwood’s directorial debut and starring Jessica Walter of arrested development as a mentally disturbed stalker of a radio dj which is a fun watch for her performance alone.

      The Cottage – 8 stars – a rural horror crime comedy. Gruesome and funny uk film.

      Ambulance – 7.5 stars – Another horror comedy from b movie director larry Cohen. James earl Jones’ over the top performance is worth seeing alone.

      Wither – 8 stars – A total love letter to Evil Dead in my eyes.

      Village of the damned (1960) – 7 stars – Well its better than John Carpenters version

      In my skin – 8 stars – A gruesome French horror in the vein of Inside and Martyrs.

  11. Holy cow, I had a tough time downloading this episode..anyway, can you split up these really long ones?
    Bill Chete’s news: Awesome!!!
    Well, I’m 46 and I just love the original Nosferatu…
    The Hills Have Eyes is a classic…I like both versions, but you can’t beat the original…
    Don’t forget to include Portland, Oregon on the list of cities
    Jay, I so respect how you didn’t let on your stance on the Song of the South issue without Josh on. Very big of you!
    C’mon, you have to tell us what movie you’re talking about (I think I know, but still…)
    Wow, massively epics show, guys!!! Thanks for all your hard work!

  12. Well sitting here this evening and working my way through the podcast. I am certainly happy that I didn’t follow everyone else down the rabbit hole and purchase Jan-Gel. Although it does sound like it might make for a great guys night movie.

    And where can I sign up to get my one of a kind One Sick Puppy original fingerpainting? Welcome to the team brother! You’re a great addtion.

    As always…Abide!

    Dude

  13. @Hisdinnerisintheoven,

    By all means check it out. That was just my personal opinion and it’s as valid as mangloid’s , Hammer’s, or anyone else’s :)

  14. Okay so this is such a Cthulhu scale episode that I think I’m going to have to dismember my comments into little chunks. So here’s the first one:

    I seriously have to take issue with Billchete’s comments about people under 40 not being able to appreciate older films like Nosferatu. TV didn’t just suddenly stop showing old movies when the 70’s ended. I was born in the late 80’s and grew up through the 90’s and I remember watching Charley Chaplin, Laurel and Hardy and loads of old black and white detective movies and I was certainly aware of the iconic universal monsters. Just because folks are born after a certain time doesn’t mean they exist in a bubble where nothing from the previous decades is relevant or comprehendible.

    I do agree that some individuals may be reluctant to criticise films that they feel are regarded as classics and others may speak about such films hyperbolically in an attempt to create a façade of sophistication or good taste, but to suggest that all young fans of older movies are pretentious and disingenuous is a vast and offensive generalisation. It’s akin to saying that no one born after the 17th century could possibly appreciate a Shakespeare play, or that no one younger than 50 would be able to enjoy the music of The Beatles.

    In fact, in my opinion a lot of older media is appealing because of its age and disengagement from modern times. There’s something unique and beautiful in a film like Nosferatu that we just don’t see anymore and you don’t have to have grey hairs to appreciate that. Some modern horror fans might have short attention spans or a thirst for ever more graphic violence and overly polished MTV-esque filmmaking but please don’t tar us all with that brush simply for the crime of being young!

      • Thank you good sir! No disrespect to Billchete but I refuse to have any of this nonsense about younger fans being less able to appreciate the horror classics.

        I don’t go around assuming everyone over 50 eats prunes all day and pees themselves on the bus.

        • I am currently 34 years old and have a very strong affinity for older movies. Perhaps I’m an oddity but I bought my first copy of Nosferatu at the age of 16 and have loved it every since. The same goes for many other silent and early horror films.

          I would agree that the trend towards these classic is not likely as high with younger views, but there is no doubt in my mind that there is a place for these great films with modern audiences.

  15. Okay, so next; my thoughts on The Hills Have Eyes remake from 2006.

    So I had it in my mind that I’d seen this movie years ago and lumped it in with a slew of forgettable horror remakes which I didn’t enjoy. The lesson here is to not judge a movie just because of its status as a remake because once I realised I hadn’t seen this I checked it out and was very pleasantly surprised. The characters are given enough space so that we grow to care about them, the pacing is excellent, the gore is fantastic and the inclusion of the Bomb testing village and those extra freaky mutants really added a new and satisfying dimension to the whole thing. I like this movie more than the original and no, that isn’t because I wasn’t around in the 70’s and therefore don’t get the original, in fact it’s more to do with the fact that I’m more scared of horribly deformed mutants than Flintstones cos-players (although only by a fine margin).

    This movie took the originals already disturbing premise and just ran with it, not pulling any punches when it came to gore, not trying too hard to make the characters “hip”, maintaining the originals sense of endlessly multiplying dread and adding just enough new stuff to make it refreshing. The only thing that I can really say I like more about the 77 version is the grittiness afforded it by its low budget and older film stock, I just love that exploitative 70’s look.

    I’d give the remake a 7.5 where the original was only a 6.5.

  16. You know what I love about this show?

    These comment boards are filled with intelligent and civil people.

    May trolls never rear their ugly heads here.

    • Maybe Jay’s on to something with this websites understated, plaintive design. Maybe “trolls” just don’t give somewhere a chance if it isn’t garish and eye-catching. Kind of like bars. I always go to the plainest, most understated bar in town because that’s always the place where they serve the best drinks and there’s the most interesting conversation as opposed to the big flashy bars which are serve crappy beers and are too noisy and full of people looking to pick fights.

      Maybe this website is the nice friendly little bar that the idiots just aren’t interested in.

      One day I’ll stop speaking in similes.

  17. Oh and Jay, thank you so much for the shout-outs! I love leaving and reading comments, but I agree with Josh in that it’s just too much content to bring into the podcast. Bu yeah, thank you so much for taking the time to do all this :)

  18. Okay, now I have to thank you Jay for reading out my comments, that’s greatly appreciated and it’s wonderful to hear you and One Sick Puppies input.

    This post might be another lengthy one, as I intend to try and explain how I developed into a horror fan, so I apologise if it gets a little tedious.

    So first of all, I really relate to One Sick Puppies comment about his interest in horror at a young age. I grew up fairly sheltered, I used to have pretty bad nightmares as a kid so my parents were quite strict with what I could watch on TV and to be honest I didn’t really have a problem with that because I was kind of a wimpy kid anyway. That being said I was still very much fascinated by anything vaguely monstrous, be it the aliens in the Star Wars cantina, dinosaurs, Monsters in my Pocket, He-man action figures or the cool pictures on the covers of VHS horror movies that I would never have dared to watch. I also spent a lot of time drawing when I was younger and it was always some kind of monster or alien or robot and I loved anything horror themed that wasn’t deemed too scary for me, cartoons, comic books, Halloween decorations and the like.

    I think when I was around 10 I became ever more curious about horror movies and I remember seeing pictures of Freddy Krueger and the Xenomorph from Alien and asking my parents about them, trying to find out as many details as I could without having to actually see the movies. On trips to the video store with my dad I’d often pick up the boxes for movies like Thinner and Creepshow and look for cool gory pictures on the back. Then a friend and I discovered the towns other video store which was an independent and had a much more varied selection of movies. I’ve mentioned this place before, it was called Movieland and up until last year when it sadly closed down they still rented out old VHS tapes for very cheap. Anyway we’d spend rainy Saturday afternoons at Movieland just scanning through this huge wall of VHS tapes trying to find the weirdest and goriest looking movies we could. I remember Castle Freak, Chopping Mall, The Toxic Avenger, The Dead Pit, The Video Dead, Return of the Living Dead 2 and 3, Tetsuo: The Iron Man (seriously) and innumerable other crazy B-movies. We would just spend hours looking at the box art (back when it was more often than not a painting of something far cooler than anything contained in the actual film) and the gory stills on the back.

    These more obscure kind of horror films really interested me because they just seemed so alien and taboo that the possibilities of their contents seemed limitless.

    At around the age of 12 I became friends with a guy named Mark who was big fan of the Halloween, Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm street franchises. He lived with his dad in a house that was kind of a dump but in an awesome way, like it was an untouched relic from the late 80’s. His dad had a Betamax player and one day Mark decided we should watch one of these weird little cassettes that for some reason came in big boxes. His dad had a fair few Betamax tapes but the only ones I can remember are I Spit on Your Grave, Living Dead at Manchester Morgue and Basket Case. The latter was the one we decided to watch and if I’m honest I was a little anxious about what I was going to see. Until then I hadn’t really seen anything gorier than Jurassic Park, so suddenly stepping into this world of exploitation movies where there didn’t seem to be any rules was kind of scary but by the end of it we were laughing and in the following months we just worked through the huge collection of horror movies that Mark’s dad had. Stuff like Return of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Burial Ground, The Deadly Spawn, Zombie Flesh Eaters 2, Cannibal Holocaust (that one wasn’t so funny) and then all the major slasher franchise movies too.

    So that’s how I got into horror. I think it’s also worth pointing out that I’ve always had a predilection towards things that aren’t particularly contemporary or in vogue. I love older music, I still own a typewriter and I like to hang out in nursing homes.

    Anyway, I’m very sorry for the Tolstoy-esque nature of this comment, at least until the next one!

    • Hi David.

      I really like this idea of sharing how one came to like horror. I hope that everyone is as interested as me in sharing their stories. Here’s mine:

      I grew up in Mexico in a Catholic family and I went to private Catholic schools from kindergarten all the way to the equivalent of 9th grade in the U.S. I was a good kid all around, well behaved, obedient, studious, and so on. So how did I make the jump into the dark side? Well, I had an older cousin (don’t we all?). He was about 7 years older than I was, he was a metalhead, and he loved horror!

      My family and I weren’t exactly rich and the private schools for my brothers and I were not cheap so, as you can expect, we didn’t have many luxuries that I now take for granted. We didn’t have a VCR at the time, we didn’t have cable, and we rarely went out to the movies. Most of my exposure came from my cousin who just so happened to live right next door. He had a VCR and he rented movies all the time, so I would spend a great deal of my time watching movies with him. And since he got to pick what we watched, I would watch all the good stuff that over time shaped my taste in movies and more. From Die Hard, to Predator, to Candyman, to Reservoir Dogs to Kramer vs. Kramer. You name it, we watched it all.

      After I moved to Houston at the age of 14, I sort of lost contact with my cousin and my influences were no longer dictated by him but by my friends from high school. At that time the movies that everyone was watching were major blockbusters like Godzilla, Independence Day, The Matrix, etc. So, for a while that’s all I watched. Horror took a backseat, but my days of self-discovery began soon after I made the jump to college. During this time I went through a period of evolution (just like everyone I suppose) and discovery to eventually become who I am today.

      Bonus Story: One of the movies that had a major impact on me as a kid was The Omen. This movie was so influential in who I would eventually become, that for a long time I was obsessed with the concept of the antichrist. Not fully understanding what it was, I would look for the 666 on my body, wanting that power depicted in the movie for myself. Funny thing is, I still look for it once in a while :/

      • I appreciate the reply Juan!

        It’s always extremely interesting to hear about peoples relationship to horror in the developmental stages. I always kind of wished I had an older cousin or sibling to introduce me to this sort of stuff, but I’m an only child and the eldest of all my cousins.

        • I 1988 when I was 12, I stayed at my older cousin’s place for the weekend while my family went out of town. She knew I loved horror movies so she rented Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Part 2 for me.

          I personally thanked her just two years ago. We had a good laugh. Seems she thought she was being transgressive, but I was happy.

  19. Fantastic episode guys!

    Thank you so much for reading my comment out, as I said in my comment I am kinda a one woman band with regards my love of horror but I’m cool with that and having a community like this is great. It’s also nice to see appreciation of tattooed chicks 😉

    I really like the hills have eyes remake (2006) there’s various wee things in the film that were cool. There’s a scene where Bob is tied to a tree and I swear there’s a delay in him going up in flames and somebody off screen saying “go” Also a big animal lover and hater of inbred cannibalistic killers, it was cool to see the family’s dog Beast go for one of the mutants.
    Maybe not enough to make it a great horror film but I appreciated those kinda comedic moments.

    Another ongoing topic on conversation that I wanted to give my view on was the classic horror / Nosferatu thing. I think if you take into account that what was shocking or scary in the 70s, it may not resonate the same way now. That also varies due to individual taste and possibly because we as a society are more desensitised to certain ideas and notions. It took me a long time to watch the Exorcist and it was nothing to do with the religious aspect as I’m a atheist so personally that didn’t affect me. It was more the special affects including the voice and the theme tune that got me jittery.

    I always remember when I was wee ( about 8 ) I saw a poster for Hellraiser in my local video shop. Pinhead was on the poster and it scared the shite out me. I remember saying I’d never want to watch a horror film and look at me now! I even have pinhead tattooed on my ribs, so my love of horror has to be for life!

    Here’s something I’d like a view from anybody , the original nightmare on elm street Freddy was a child killer but I never got the impression he was a pedophile. The remake of a nightmare on elm street was so creepy because it was out and out a film about a pedophile. The remake wasn’t a great film but the film had a lasting impact on me because of this. Anybody feel similar?

    One last thing ( well 2 )
    Jay, I’ve ordered “inside” so I’m looking foward/ apprehensive to watch it !

    Still loving the podcast guys and I’m recommending it to anybody I come across who loves horror :)

    Fiona

      • Haha!

        Try the strongest Scottish accent known to man.
        I barely understand myself sometimes ..

        Horror tattoos are the way to go I reckon, well it’s either commitment to the craft or sheer stupidity ( matter of opinion )
        I’m thinking Freddy Kruger for the other side or a zombie/shark hybrid. Both great loves of my life 😉

        • I actually tried for a while to find a horror or comic book podcast hosted by Scottish women, but had no luck.

          How about Freddy slicing his way out of a shark? you might even be able to incorporate your ribs for the shark’s?

          • It would be a very niche market I would imagine 😉

            Yes! Those are good ideas, il have to have a play about with those and try and come up with a sketch.
            Does this mean I have to have ” concept by Onesickpuppy” added to the bottom of it ? 😉

    • I remember seeing a huge billboard with Pinhead on it in the York train station when i was probably about 9 (I think it must have been for one of the Hellraiser sequels) and it terrified me. I had no idea what it was but I’m pretty sure it gave me nightmares. I was such a wuss. even Sloth from The Goonies gave me nightmares.

      • For me I think it’s because it wasn’t a beastly freak as it were, it was obvious it was human but something horrible had went wrong.
        Even the theme tune brings back strong memories of seeing that poster.
        I have a horror room of sorts in my house and my Hellraiser poster has pride of place.kinda cool when I think back to how I felt when I first encountered it.

        Sloth! I’m with you on that for sure.

        • I totally agree about the Human element being something that made Pinhead extra scary. I’ve always found monsters way more disturbing when there’s something distinguishably human about them. Like to me a warped, messed up version of a person is far creepier than a big green blob with tentacles.

          Sometimes I wish I could still get as creeped out by simple stuff like posters and VHS artwork as I did when I was a kid.

          • Yeah I totally agree, the idea of normal looking people doing horrible things has always had the biggest impact on me. All these people that are into BDSM and alternative lifestyles and the like are often not the ones that do horrific stuff, it’s your average joe so to speak.

            It was the unknown i guess. These posters were so inviting but scary at the same time. It’s probably a youth thing a lot of the time. Your imagination couldn’t conceive the things in the films but as you get older you become used to and immune to lots of the images and concepts in horror.

  20. To go along with Mangloid’s request of letterboxd profiles it would be cool to know the twitter usernames of other listeners of the show, so we can share links and such. Anyone?

    • And maybe facebook profiles if you have one and are willing to share. I’d like to put a face to the voices/comments.

      • My twitter: @StreamsofBlood

        Facebook profile is just Jeff Hammer but I have had to start new ones several times, so it might be hard to find me.

      • Cool Idea. If anyone feels the need to add me as a friend on facebook I am simply – Darren Placido – out of Canada.

  21. I am still working my way through this King Kong of Podcasts (and loving every minute of it) but wanted to comment on the discussion around Dario Argento.

    It seems that Argento is a name that comes up regularly in horror movie discussions and I can’t think of a director that is more polarizing. People generally love him his work or hate his work. There is also another group of people that love his older films but hate his new films.

    Personally I would consider myself to fall into the latter category. I have not seen all of is work, but I have seen a large number of his films. I believe that he deserves a lot of respect for the avant garde nature of his earlier work. Where Argento starts to fall down is that, like so many other famous directors, he never grew as a film maker. By the time you saw his first 6 films (spanning from 1970’s The Bird With The Crystal Plumage to 1977’s Suspiria) you had seen everything that Argento would do for the rest of his career. There wasn’t anything new.

    Looking at his most recent films, he is simply amping up the gore and retreading all of the same old tired themes that horror movie fans have seen for years, theme that he himself helped define.

    He has also not done himself any favours by casting his daughter (Asia Argento) in a number of significant and pivotal role. Let’s face it, she’s easy on the eyes, but a pretty weak actress overall.

    I respect Argento and I keep hoping that his next effort will be his next, long awaited masterpiece, but the clock is ticking and fans are losing patience. I’m not certain that we will ever see it again.

    My ratings for Argento’s films that I have seen:

    The Bird With The Crystal Plumage (1970) – A very early and trend setting Giallo film. Although it could have been contained a tighter plot, it still manages to thrill the view. 7.5 out of 10

    The Cat ‘O Nine Tails (1971) – Very similar in nature to “Bird” but features a stronger main performance by Karl Malden. 8 out of 10.

    Four Flies on Grey Velvet (1972) – This is a step back for Argento. You can notice a very early trend of him recycling plots for this film. The device that breaks the plot open is far too contrived for views to buy into. 5.5 out of 10.

    Deep Red (1975) – Again Argento visits the world of Giallo and builds a mystery backed with brutal attacks and graphic violence. The change from Italian to English in the movie if annoying and he run time is far too long (over 2 hours). This might have been his masterpiece if it were not for these two things. Despite that, it is still an enjoyable movie. 8 out of 10.

    Suspiria (1977) – Finally something a little different from Argento. This movie is almost impossible to define and place in a specific genre. I would classify it as a Giallo with a twist. The first 2/3s plays out as a Giallo and then the view is taken in another direction completely. IMO Argento’s undisputed masterpiece. 8.5 out of 10.

    Inferno (1980) – The second of the “Three Sisters” trilogy after Suspiria. It again makes small changes to the story line of Suspiria but just can’t pull it off. Visually this is a spectacular movie, but there is little new here for the seasoned Argento view. 6 out of 10.

    Tenebre (1982) – Another ‘pure’ Giallo from Argento that again sees similar themes and devices. You can tell that Argento has mastered his craft by this time and the film is polished. Unfortunately the plot wears a little thin. 7 out of 10.

    Phenomena (1985) – It has been too long since I have seen this film to properly rate it, but I do recall it being carried by strong performances from Jennifer Connelly and Donald Pleaseance. Strange plot though.

    Demons 1 and 2 – Although Argento is generally credited with having directed these movies (and they have an Argento feel about them) the ‘official’ directing credits go to Lamberto Bava (son on Mario Bava) so I will not include these in his filmography. Regardless if you haven’t seen these movies CHECK THEM OUT.

    Opera (1987) – Perhaps Argento’s last great movie. Opera features a near perfect blend of Giallo and slasher elements. This movie has so much style that it absorbs the viewer completely. 8 out of 10.

    The Stendhal Syndrome (1996) – A brand new approach for Argento that fails IMO. Asia Argento’s acting is a major let down and the plot is muddled. Now it has been a long time since I have seen this film, and perhaps it is worth a re-watch on my end, but I would pass on this one. 5 out of 10.

    The Phantom of the Opera (1998) – Guess who we see in a starring role again? Asia Argento. Guess what the end result is? Terrible. 3 out of 10.

    Sleepless (2001) – IMO Argento’s last good movie. This is another Giallo film but there are some solid gore effects and suspense. A strong performance by Max Von Sydow and a reunion with Goblin help this effort. 6.5 out of 10.

    The Card Player (2004) – More Giallo without anything new added. Certainly not terrible, but far from great. 5 out of 10.

    Do You Like Hitchcock (2005 – TV) – How can a horror movie based Hitchcock movies go so wrong? Watch his and find out. 3 out of 10.

    Mother of Tears (2007) – I saw this movie on the video store shelf and noticed Argento’s name on it. I perked up. I then noticed that this was the 3rd movie in the Mother Trilogy (following Inferno) and I got even more excited. Then I noticed Asia Argento’s name and I came back to reality. Great gore effects that will please any gore hounds, but this is a film that lacks the punch of Suspiria or even Inferno. Certainly not what we would have hoped for as a conclusion of the trilogy. 5.5 out of 10 (6.5 out of 10 for gore hounds).

    Giallo (2009) – Is Argento even trying anymore? 2 out of 10.

    No doubt Argento will continue to make films and fans will continue to have a polarized opinion of him. My only comment is that we as fans can respect a directors place in history and forgive them for missteps later in their career. I know that I do when it comes to Argento.

    Abide

    The Dude

  22. Hi there again guys. I’m afraid it’s time for me to ramble on inanely for another page or so.

    I just want to address my impression that One Sick Puppy may have got slightly the wrong idea about my complaints regarding the poor writing for characters in more modern Slasher films (and thinking about it, it’s actually a criticism that could be applied to other facets of the genres modern incarnation too).

    That is to say that I have no pretensions about what a Slasher movie needs to be. In my mind they’re just fun, slightly creepy, turn-off-your-brain popcorn movies and I’m happy with that. My complaint was not intended to suggest that Slashers need to incorporate in depth character development or insightful dialogue. I really don’t mind if my Slashers are clichéd, shallow and formulaic and as a matter of fact I feel that a failure to adhere to formula is a big part of the underlying problem. The standard Slasher formula which developed throughout the late 70’s and 80’s certainly called for the odd annoying “jerk” character, whose demise the audience is likely to anticipate and enjoy, but also some more “relatable” characters for the audience to invest in. These “relatable” characters don’t need an extensive back story or multi-faceted personality, more so they simply need to not be entirely dislikeable. This type of character is peppered liberally throughout the majority of older Slasher movies and helps the audience to project themselves into the situation, it gives them at least somebody to root for which creates tension and injects the horror element into those movies. They may not be complicated works of high-art but to me they were entertaining and I think a large part of that is striking a good balance between the vicarious thrill of seeing the “Jerks” get killed off and the suspense created by wanting the “relatable’s” to survive.
    My problem is that a lot of modern horror writers just don’t create any likeable characters at all leading to totally flat movies where it feels like nothing is at stake.

    I’m not sure if that spool has clarified my stance or over complicated it but I’ve drunk too much coffee to be objective.

    • I totally understood what you were saying. I think Jay did too. But not all Slashers lack depth in the way One Sick Puppy was suggesting, I clearly see the difference in likable and unlikable characters. And nowadays, it’s like hey, they have to root for the killer, let’s make everyone suck.

    • Stay tuned, David.

      Bill Chete from HorrorOntheGo.com intends to take me to task for my disparagement of the slasher genre on my show DeadasHellHP.com

      We’ll try to get that out ASAP.

      • A showdown between you and BillChete? I can’t wait to hear that!

        For the record I probably find myself disagreeing with BillChete the most of all the hosts (which isn’t to say I don’t respect his knowledge, admire his enthusiasm and enjoy his tell-it-like-it-is approach) so it’ll be interesting to see whose side I come down on in that debate.

  23. Okay so this’ll be my final comment on this episode, I swear. I’m feeling bad because you guys put so much work in recording these great shows and then your only reward is a whole mountain of boundless comments that you have to read through (not to detract from any other commentators, all of whom seem to have incredibly insightful and intelligent things to say)

    Anyway, first off, One Sick Puppy what the hell is wrong with Brazil!? That’s an awesome movie in my book. Does the satirical, British humour not translate? or did you watch that awful theatrical version with the hackneyed happy ending? Or was it just not your thing? I guess it’s one of those films that just ain’t everyone’s cup of tea.

    Now finally; it was really lovely of you guys to discuss my comment about Jung in relation to horror. I’d love to hear more of One Sick Puppy’s thoughts on that kind of thing as he seems to have a really interesting outlook and I’d also be extremely interested in what the book is that Jay mentioned he’s reading.

    As for contributing to a future episode on such matters; I have no experience in pod-casting and am sure you could find someone much more qualified to talk about such things and probably without the logistical difficulties of cross-Atlantic organisation, but that said I’d definitely consider it. It sounds like loads of fun.

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