Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 060: Wolfman Josh’s State of the Werewolf Address

Episode 060

Welcome to Episode 060 of HORROR MOVIE PODCAST, where we’re Dead Serious About Horror Movies… In this special werewolf-themed episode, Wolfman Josh goes solo to bring you Feature Reviews of Late Phases (2014), Wer (2014), WolfCop (2015) and “Wolves” (2015). Josh also brings us his State of the Werewolf Address. Werewolf fans, this has been a long time coming!

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I. Introduction

II. Feature Review: WER (2014)
Wolfman Josh = 7 ( Rental )

III. Feature Review: LATE PHASES (2014)
Wolfman Josh = 7 ( Rental )

IV. Feature Review: WOLFCOP (2014)
Wolfman Josh = 5 ( Rental )

V. Feature Review: WOLVES (2015)
Wolfman Josh = 6 ( Rental )


VII. Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending

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252 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 060: Wolfman Josh’s State of the Werewolf Address

  1. I’m a werewolf kinda guy so I have a lot of notes on this one.
    My main problem with Wolves and other movies like it is the pack theme where the conflict is happening within the pack. This has resulted in lots of bad werewolf movies like Blood and Chocolate, American Werewolf in Paris, and Skinwalkers. Other movies that have packs are very successful but they keep it in the perspective of the victims like The Howling and Dog Soldiers. The opening of Wolves was very promising but it fell apart for me once he got to the town.
    If you like Nick Damici he was also in a movie called Mulberry St (also by the director of Stakeland) where he plays a former boxer who’s building becomes infested by Were Rats.
    I used to love Werewolf the series when it was on TV and finally found a bootleg copy of the entire series at Horrorhound Cincinnati last year. Attempts to give it a proper release have failed due to music licensing.
    I’m surprised you have not yet reviewed Game of Werewolves. I know people have been dying to hear your thoughts on it.

    • Thanks for your comments.

      I completely spaced Game of Werewolves. I vow to get to that one!

      Very interesting point about the movies that utilize packs. It’s something I’ve never considered, but want to do some rewatches now with that in mind. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure that would bother me, but it’s a brilliant observation that really effects the dynamic if the films.

      I purchased Mulberry St based on Dr Shock’s recommendation, but if I’m honest, I haven’t made it all the way through in one sitting. I like Werewolves, but never been turned on by Were-anything else. I will get around to it, though.

      I hadn’t seen Werewolf the series since the 80s, except for some clips on YouTube, but I just stumbled upon the whole series on YouTube and I’m rewatching it right away. Loved it. Whatever happened to the rumors of a Scream Factory release?

      • As per dread central, 2 of the musicians wouldn’t “play ball” and their music played over scenes with important dialogue that couldn’t be cut. Since they didn’t have a separate audio track they couldn’t fix it so they just scrapped it.

  2. I don’t know about this Silver Bullets movie but I’m watching Silver Bullet right now…and it holds up…great werewolf flick…

    • Word to your mother on Silver Bullet! Love that flick, despite it’s many problems. It’s definitely in the discussion for all-timers. Silver Bullets, however, was interesting, but I’m guessing 99.9% of horror fans would hate it.

      • Yeah, I’m trying to imagine what an arthouse werewolf film would be like. Might just have to bite the bullet and watch it to find out….

          • Although, I just read the synopsis of SILVER BULLETS, and it looks interesting.

            WHEN ANIMALS DREAM looks good. It has an 89% on Rotten Tomatoes right now.

          • Well, now I kind of want to see it just to see why you’re 99.9% sure horror fans wouldn’t like it (even though it’s classified as horror on iMDB).

          • Geez. Counting Wer, that makes for two movies that I DIDN’T recommend that you now want to check out, Dino. Haha. That’s okay, I do the same thing with Jason.

            • Wait, you DIDN’T recommend WER?! You gave that a 7/10.

              Is this like Andy’s 9/10s that he says nobody should ever watch?… (can’t think of a good example off the top of my head)

          • Well, I guess I did call it a rental, so you’re right. And it’s pretty well made, so I will stand by my 7, but it wasn’t at all my kind of movie. I thought I was pretty clear about that in the discussion portion. My number ratings are my a attempt to more objectively comment on the quality of the filmmaking while the recommendation and conversation are a reflection of my subjective personal tastes and opinions. You could obviously argue that it is all subjective, but I try to parse any distinctions between the technical quality and my personal enjoyment that I can find. This is why I don’t value the ultimate number score. Art is so hard for me to rate. For me, it’s all about the conversation.

          • That makes sense, and you have said that in the past (the distinction between your number rating and the discussion).

  3. Gotta say I just love going back to these 80’s horror movies and listening to their creepy synth scores…I appreciate them more now then I did then…This is why It Follows struck such a cord with me with it’s soundtrack…

    • I agree with you on the 80s scores and the It Follows score! Starry Eyes is similarly worth checking out.

      One 80s synth score I recently revisited and can’t give a pass to, however, is LadyHawk. That score is SO distracting.

      • The STARRY EYES score is like a twisted lullaby. I love it.

        And the IT FOLLOWS score is brilliant. I think I described it before as what you would get if John Carpenter scored PHANTASM. Sooooo good.

  4. Jay of the Dead here. Happy 4th of July, everybody in the USA! … David in England, no hard feelings, Buddy. That was a long, long time ago… ha ha.

    First of all, a huge “bravo” and standing ovation for Wolfman Josh for single-handedly pulling together such an excellent episode on such short notice. Truth be told, I simply took the week off to enjoy my birthday and to hang out with my kids, so I thought it was very cool of Wolfman to step up to the plate and make sure we had some content to release.

    Excellent show, Josh. Today is July 4th, and I just spent the last 63 minutes enjoying your episode.

    We should discuss this more on the show — but I’ll also pose this question to the listeners / readers here — why does the werewolf seem to be such a difficult monster to pull off in the cinema? There are some good werewolf films and some good examples, but generally speaking, it seems to be a horror sub-genre that is challenging to get right. I’m sure we’ll do a full-blown, full host panel themed episode on the werewolf movie someday, but in the meantime, I’d love to hear everybody’s thoughts.

    A couple of other quick notes: Wolfman Josh, I’m very excited to see “Wer” now. It’s very high on my list.

    Although “WolfCop” sounds completely outside of my tastes as a blatant horror comedy, I do have to commend the film on one little detail that I learned from Josh’s review: The WolfCop’s name is “Lou Garou.” That’s clever because as many people know (especially from films like “Blood & Chocolate”), “Loups-Garoux” is French for “werewolf.” Nice.

    In brief conclusion, thanks for this episode, Wolfman. I very much enjoyed it. And aside from the familiar werewolf movies of the ’80s that we celebrate, I think two of the more effective, semi-recent entries were “Ginger Snaps” (2000) (with at least one pretty decent sequel, as I recall) and “Dog Soldiers” (2002). … But I’m sure everyone feels that way. More coming on werewolves from HMP…

    Jay of the Dead

    • Jay! Not surprisingly, I really dislike both of those films you mentioned, but I’ve been promising to do a Dog Soldiers rewatch for some time. We need to do a werewolf list sometime.

      And I’d love to discuss this more with the panel, but I touched on one reason I think the monster is under-served and I think the reason is that so much focus is put in the look of the monster while the most powerful themes this monster offers are usually overlooked.

      Thanks for listening, Jay. Glad you didn’t hate it!

      • Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa!! You didn’t like Ginger Snaps? That’s like one of the best werewolf movies, man! Dog Soldiers is great too. I know that you dislike the military, but that’s on you Mr. Wolf, not the movie. The movie is just fine. Anyway, I’m dying to know what you didn’t like about Ginger Snaps.

        • Ok, I didn’t want to get into this until I rewatched it bc it has been ages, but I remember thinking that Dog Soldiers was a bit of a bastardization of the genre (yes, it was probably the military aspect) and that the werewolves sucked. I’m more than open to a rewatch.

          As far as Ginger Snaps, I put that in the category of Urban Legends and Teaching Mrs. Tingle that were still trying to copy the Scream thing way after it was passé. I also find Katharine Isabelle completely unwatchable and hate the whole 90s “alternative” aesthetic of her character that was about a half a decade late. It probably has a lot to do with my being the same age as the characters and so judging them as contemporaries at the time, but it’s just eeew, for me. And again, the werewolf look sucks at least half of the time. Now, I haven’t seen this since right when it came out so I recently considered a rewatch, but then watched the trailer and … uugh. You tell me what’s so great about it that I should give it another try, Juanito.

          • Whoa… both you (Josh) and Dino are blowing my mind right about now. But ok, let’s save the real meat of this conversation for when you guys actually talk about those movies. I will say this however, I don’t think Ginger Snaps was trying to be Scream. If anything, it owes a lot to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. You could argue that Scream was an influence on Buffy, but I don’t think that’s very accurate either. Buffy was its own thing. It never tried to be Scream. Anyway, tangent, I know. What I’m saying is that Ginger Snaps was more concerned about capturing the teen life than being self aware. It used horror elements as metaphors to tell your basic teen problems. I can understand if that’s not your thing, but to dismiss it as a Scream copy cat, that I won’t abide to. Also, miss Katharine Isabelle is a sight to behold and she’s great in the movie. You also hated Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy —a character that would fit well in this movie—, which makes me question wether your hatred is really being directed towards the actress or this type of character that these lovely ladies are portraying. Hmmm…

            Oh and not to drag Doc unto this, but this is what he had to say about Ginger Snaps: “It’s a hidden gem that really has no business staying hidden anymore.” So there’s that.

            One last thing, what do you mean the werewolves sucked in both these movies? I thought they looked great! What are your favorite werewof looks so I can compare and contrast?

          • It just feels so mid-90s for an early 2000s film. And I hate mid-90s culture. And yes, I think Katharine Isabelle is equally as terrible as Sarah Michelle Gellar, but it’s not these roles, it’s everything they are in. Now, you’ve got me wondering if your adoration of these actresses is just because you like the character type–or you just think they’re attractive. Maybe I don’t find them attractive enough to overlook the bad acting. Who knows? I guess I will have to rewatch this one too.

            As for the Dog Soldiers werewolf look, I think they are too lanky, too slow, they move like Michael Keaton in the Bat-suit when the cowl design made it so he couldn’t turn his head and had to awkwardly turn at the waist to see what was going on.

            My preferred werewolf is still a classic Wolf Man type. American Werewolf in London is probably still the best transformation. I actually like early moments from the Teen Wolf and Monster Squad transformations a lot as well. And elements of Thriller. And as much crap as I give the movies, the armature leg design for the first Underworld is incredible. Check out the making-of doc on the werewolf design if you haven’t. Really cool. Monster Squad has been my favorite update to the classic Wolf Man look for decades until this new Wolves design. I’m also happy with the “giant wolf” approach of AWWILondon, Wolfen, etc and almost stoked about the feral human approach of Wolf or Wer, though neither went far enough. My ideal werewolf would be somewhere between a Wolf Man and feral human and be extremely agile, fierce, and ferocious, like a 30 Days of Night or Stakeland vamp, or better yet, a Zack Snyder fast zombie. I just want a fierce, fast, animalistic hunting machine.

          • @Juan – Admittedly, I never gave GINGER SNAPS a chance, so I can’t really say much about it either way other than that it didn’t grab my attention in the first 10 minutes.

            That said, I’m not the kind of person who normally turns movies off after 10-15 minutes, so…

            I’ll have to give it a revisit one of these days.

          • Hold on. Are you saying that you like your wolfman design to be more on human-like than wolf-like? I like my werewolves more wolf-like, but with enough human traits so that you can tell it’s a werewolf and not just an oversized wolf. I like them with a little girth and size like in An American Werewolf in London, which is probably my favorite werewolf design. This monster really shows the physical enhancements that a transformation like that would bring to one’s physique. Fangs and fur are not fun. I want something more drastic. I want the werewolf to look powerful and menacing.

            I agree with you on the werewolf design from Underworld. I was afraid to bring it up because of your hatred of the movies, but they actually get the design right.

            One of my favorite werewolves growing up was Sabrewulf from the game Killer Instinct. I love its musculature and I wish more werewolf movies would show that. I guess it’s hard when they cover their designs with a ton of fur.

            • @Juan – I assume this is in response to Josh. But, just in case, I wanted to clarify that by “human design” of the werewolf, I meant how the individual looks when not in “wolf” form.

          • Actually, it’s just the legs I like on the Underworld wolves. They don’t have enough hair and they look too cat-like, in general.

            I like all kinds of werewolves from giant oversized wolves (which is basically what I would call An American Werewolf in London) to feral humans (like Wer, if it were done better). What matters most to me is agility and execution. You can’t have a werewolf like The Howling or Dog Soldiers and have it actually attack like a wolf might. You get much greater range of motion from the more human like werewolves. And, yeah, the classic Wolf Man form is my favorite.

            If we’re talking about video game wolves, how about Altered Beast from Sega Genesis. That’s about the last time I actively played video games.

            • Altered Beast, YES! I was thinking the same thing after I read Juan’s comment.

              They need to make that into a movie.

        • “My ideal werewolf would be somewhere between a Wolf Man and feral human and be extremely agile, fierce, and ferocious, like a 30 Days of Night or Stakeland vamp, or better yet, a Zack Snyder fast zombie. I just want a fierce, fast, animalistic hunting machine.”

          This sounds awesome. I’m 100% with you on the monster design.

          This might be a silly question, but what about the “human design” of the monster? I haven’t seen enough werewolf movies to really give an informed opinion, but I’m imagining a seriously weakened individual who looks ratty and (maybe) a little hairier than the average person. This would really play towards the “tortured soul” subtext of the werewolf, which I think is very interesting and is probably my favorite thematic element attached to this monster.

          Then again, maybe this is obvious. Like I said, my background in “werewolf” is not particularly substantial.

            • Cool, I definitely need to check out WER. Plus, it’s found footage, so, bonus.

              I know the transformation INTO werewolf is one that’s highly important and paid close attention to in werewolf movies, but I’m very interested in the transformation back to human form. In my mind, I’m picturing a very slow transformation, where some of the wolf features and hair lingers on for days after the character’s “mental transformation” back to human takes place. You could have a lot of “fun” with that in a sort of body horror kind of way, with hair shedding and molting off or the character’s gate being affected as the bones and joints “reset.” Also, the slow mental transformation for the character as (s)he comes to grips with what has happened or what they’ve done. I don’t know, I’m just spitballing.

              I love the idea of the tortured soul sub-context for the werewolf monster. Similarly to why Wolverine and Batman are my two favorite superheroes, I think it helps to create a very interesting and complex character.

      • It’s been a while since I’ve seen “Dog Soldiers” but I remember thinking it was a really effective, genuinely terrifying take on the werewolf. That said I can remember sod all about the protagonists aside from them being army guys so maybe the characterisation wasn’t up to much.

    • “David in England, no hard feelings, Buddy.”

      Jay, if I could emancipate myself from the shadow cast on this country by the Royal Family and the plutocratic aristocracy then I wouldn’t hesitate!

      • Ha ha, David. You know I’m just playin’… My country (which I dearly love) has a few black eyes in its history. But I think it’s safe to say that no matter where you live, sometimes our “leaders” do things we don’t agree with. : )

  5. I’ve also got some tips for the “at your mercy”-episode.

    * Dellamorte Dellamore aka Cemetery Man (1994) : the most visually poetic and philosophical zombie movie I’ve ever seen. Rupert Everett is excellent in it.

    * Ghostwatch (1992) : a fake tv show in which BBC reporters investigate a supposed haunting – it predates the whole mockumentary hype by several years and is done very effectively. According to IMDb : Earned the dubious honour of being the first TV programme to be cited in the British Medical Journal as having caused Post Traumatic Stress Disorder in children.

    * Nattevagten (1994) : it was remade a few years later with Ewan McGregor, but in this one it’s a young Nikolaj Coster-Waldau who’s playing the lead. The atmosphere is fantastic.

    I’m from the Dutch speaking region in Belgium (Flanders) so I wished I could point you to some of our horror movies, but sadly there are but a few and there not great …

    *Sl8n8/Slaughternight (a Dutch-Flemish coproduction) – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493452/ – 2.5 AVOID
    *Welp/Cub – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3061836/ – 5.5 LOW PRIORITY RENTAL
    *Linkeroever/Left Bank – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0940723/ – 7.0 HIGH PRIORITY RENTAL
    *Alias – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289055/ – 1.5 AVOID
    *Intensive Care (technically Dutch, but the lead is a very popular Flemish singer and TV personality) – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104515/ – 0.5 MUST SEE (for people who love so-bad-it’s-good-movies), DEFINITE AVOID (for everyone else)

      • I’d love to hear a review of “Cemetery Man” although more because as much as it’s unique, well-made and cool I just don’t love that movie and I can’t figure out why. Visually it’s beautiful and in general it’s full of the kind of stuff I like but there’s something there that just doesn’t sit right with me and I can’t tell what it is. I have an inkling it’s the weird balance between comedic horror/philosophical, artsy drama but I don’t know.

    • “*Intensive Care (technically Dutch, but the lead is a very popular Flemish singer and TV personality) – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104515/ – 0.5 MUST SEE (for people who love so-bad-it’s-good-movies)”

      This made me laugh.

      GHOSTWATCH sounds very interesting. I’m a fan of mockumentaries, so will be adding this to my list. I’m also going to check out NATTEVAGTEN because I’m a fan of Nikolaj Coster-Waldau.

    • Really interesting picks there, Rob.

      Whether or not we pick these for the At Your Mercy episode, I’m watching each and every one of your Flemmish film suggestions, even the low-rated ones. And Cub has already been on my to-do list for a long time, just based on the awesome poster and premise.

      I suppose you saw that Jay reviewed the French-Belgian film Calvaire on our first At Your Mercy show, Ep 052. We also reviewed the emotionally brutal Flemmish drama The Broken Circle Breakdown over at Movie Podcast Weekly at some point.

      Where are you from? I actually lived in Flanders for about half a year (and in Nederland for about two years). Specifically, I lived in Mechelen (which I love) and spent significant time in Ghent and Antwerpen. I also had friends in Zwijndrecht and Sint Niklaas. And obligatorily visited all the tourist spots in Brussels and Brugge. I’ve taken both my wife (my co-host on Movie Stream Cast) and my mom back to visit most of those places since I moved back to the United States.

      • Yes, I heard the review he did of Calvaire. I think it’s one of Belgium’s finest horror movies.

        I live about an hour’s drive east of Brussels. The province I live in is Limburg and it’s a bit mocked at by the rest of Flanders because of its more rural character (mostly fruit farming and there was a lot of coal mining until the end of last century) and our accents …

        It’s most famous for having the oldest city in the country (Tongere, more than 2 000 years old), Bokrijk (an open air museum) and Pukkelpop (music festival that gets about 180k visitors every year).

        The 2011 movie Bullhead (Rundskop – directed by The Drop director Michael Roskam) also takes place in Limburg. It’s a decent drama with excellent lighting and a phenomenal lead role by Matthias Schoenaerts (who also played in both the original and the remake of the dreadful Loft)

    • Jay caught that too. You guys are so smart. When I heard it, I knew it was obviously a weird name and I figured it must have some meaning, but never looked into it. Great choice, for sure.

      • “Jay caught that too.”

        So he did.

        Now I feel like one of those jerks who repeats something clever they heard somebody say but louder so everyone thinks they came up with it first.

          • Haha, you vastly overestimate me, Jay! I had no choice but to study French for 5 years at Secondary School yet came away with a big fat D and little more than “Je m’appelle David, je suis un idiot” in my vocabulary. I’m utterly monolingual and only picked up on the Loup Garou reference because of my nerdy and useless knowledge of monster folklore from around the world.

    • Anyone who’s familiar with the story of The Beast of Gévaudan should be familiar with the term Loup Garou. It’s what the movie Brotherhood of the Wolf is based on.

      • I’ve seen that movie, but I’m a bit hazy on it. Don’t remember liking it, but would give it another try. Unfamiliar with the source material too. Apparently really lacking on my French werewolf knowledge. I’ve seen American Werewolf in Paris and Blood and Chocolate too, but not for ages and didn’t like either.

        • The Beast of Gevaudan was a series of real life wolf attacks in France resulting in 60-113 deaths within a 3 year span. The wolf was described as oversized, about the size of a calf with red fur and a black streak down it’s back. A large wolf was killed but the attacks continues. A local hunter named Jean Chastel finally killed another over-sized wolf (reportedly by using a silver bullet) and the attacks stopped. Theory’s range from a wolf-mastiff hybrid to an Asian Hyena.

        • Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t The Brotherhood of the Wolf a martial arts movie? Either way, I do remember a lot of fighting.

          • Yeah, there was a bunch of martial arts as I remember. Like parkour kind of stuff. That’s what I found so jarring: a French beastly freaks period piece with wire work. It went right in one ear and out the other. But, I saw it right when it came out and haven’t revisited it. My tastes have matured since then. I might have more patience for the odd stew of cinematic elements. And parkour is apparently a French creation, so maybe that’s the connection???

  6. Josh, you always sound sort of apologetic when you do a solo-cast but there’s really no need; this episode was a great listen. Sure it’s not quite the same dynamic as a panel discussion but you communicated the feel of the movies really well and your thoughts regarding them were well articulated and insightful.

    Personally, I’m not a huge werewolf fan. I’ve noted before that I find furry, mammalian monsters less scary than other horror creatures but I’m still not sure why this is. I guess it might be to do with the fact that we don’t really have many actual predatory mammals in this country. Go into the countryside here and the scariest thing you’re likely to see is a badger.

    That said, I do love to hear discussion of this monster because I do think the subtextual elements have a great deal of potential. I also love the classic monster vibe of certain werewolf incarnations. He’s one of those monsters that I’d always see teamed up with Dracula, Frankenstein and the Mummy when I was kid, whether it be in the form of cheap halloween costumes or discount store action figures. He’s one of those classic spooky characters that all kids recognise. Part of the reason why i love “Monster Squad” so much.

    Also, I’m curious to know why the UK distribution of “Late Phases” felt the need to rebrand it “Night of the Wolf: Late Phases” here. Do they really need to spell out “This is a werewolf movie” so obviously to us?

    • Funny, the DVD release in the US is actually called Late Phases: Night if the Wolf. We lamented this very briefly on a recent episode of HMP. At first, I’d thought it was a sequel! I’m sure they just want to squeeze every cent they can out if the film and Late Phases, while the more interesting name, doesn’t obviously communicate something marketable.

    • And I know the solo casts–or lone wolf casts (missed opportunity)–are passable, but any magic that has every come out of these shows has come from conversation, challenging each other, learning for each other, digging deeper to answer someone else’s questions, etc. The basic movie reviews are about 10% of what I’m interested in. I’m in it for the deep-diving discussions. I do think there are those who excel at solo-casting. Guys like One Sick Puppy and Midnight Corey are best by themselves, but I’m just not that talented at it or interested in it.

  7. Awesome! Can’t wait to hear it, I’m a werewolf guy myself. Guess I’m showing my age here but I used to love reading Goosebumps when I was little. I’m guessing nobody here has read the books or watched the show, BUT, if you ever get a chance to view any be sure to watch The Werewolf of Fever Swamp. Great werewolf story, even if you aren’t a 90s kid :)

    • I’m a just a little too old for Goosebumps, it was around when I was a kid, but it was a bit childish for me. HOWEVER, I’m just starting to get my kids into it, so I will check that out! Thanks for the recommendation.

      • AWESOME! Like I said I was born in 1990 and it really helped me become a horror fan, I’m hoping to introduce my 3 month old daughter to it when she gets old enough

    • “Goosebumps” was pretty huge when I was at school and I remember reading some of the books and watching the show (though I always preferred “Are You Afraid of the Dark?”). I don’t think I remember “The Werewolf of Fever Swamp” though.

      • I’ve still got all my goosebumps books, I loved them and read just about every one of the original run, I will agree tho Are You Afraid of the Dark was way better as a show. The goosebumps show had a few well done episodes, a lot of it was pure 90s cheese though lol

        • “The goosebumps show had a few well done episodes, a lot of it was pure 90s cheese though lol”

          That’s definitely I’ve come to appreciate more as I’ve got later into my 20’s though.

    • What the crap, guys? Did you know this existed? I just saw that there is a Goosebumps movie coming out starring Jack Black as R.L. Stein. Brilliant concept. I feel like I could really get into this until … you guessed it: packed full of horrible CGI. I like Jack Black, though and love that little goofy kid (now more grown up) from Super 8 and This is 40. And there are two of my favorite monsters, Abominable Snowman and Werewolf!!! It’s too bad the CGI is so bad. What do you guys think?

      • Wait, didn’t you mention GOOSEBUMPS in the 2014 wrap-up/2015 preview episode as one of the 2015 horror movies you’re most looking forward to?

        • I very well could have, Dino. My memory doesn’t go back that far. That actually sounds right. I’d just completely forgotten about it when we started discussing Goosbumps on this thread and then, BAM, all of the sudden there is a Goosebumps trailer. It was weird timing.

      • You guys and your disdain for CGI make me sick. Sick I tell ya!

        There is nothing wrong with the CGI in that trailer. Just because it doesn’t look “real” it doesn’t make it bad. There is such a thing as artistic direction and I think they made the right call for this type of film. The tone is clearly not that of a serious horror movie, so why would you want the effects to look any less stylized? They were going for a cartoony look and it works as far as that look goes. Now, was it the right call to use CGI over practical effects given that the show was all practical effects in the first place? Probably not. But again, the CGI is fine.

        And this is not an attack against you or anyone in particular, Wolfman. It just really grinds my gears whenever you guys bring up CGI and you never ever have anything good to say about it. It’s an art you guys. There are people painstakingly working on textures and animations and millions of crazy layers and it blows my mind that there seems to be absolutely zero appreciation for the medium on this podcast. Just because it’s not a “palpable” medium doesn’t make it any less. Just saying.

        Sorry, I just had an energy drink :/

        • This movie is being compared to The Monster Squad–THE MONSTER SQUAD, I TELL YOU! This looks more like Night At the Museum, only Night at the Museum has better CGI.

          So, why the Monster Squad comparisons? Because of the monsters? The MS monsters are real, practical, beautifully-designed creatures. Top 10 best Wolf Man, Frankenstein, Mummy and Creature designs EVER created!

          The gnomes look fine. There were a few elements that look fine. The werewolf is a f*ing shame. It looks awful. I also love yetis and this looks like a cartoon yeti. I get that it is stylized. If we were watching Tin Tin, that would be one thing, but this is a live-action movie. I know you like cartoons, Juan, but I don’t. This looks like a f*ing cartoon when the CGI is on the screen. It works for Roger Rabbit to blend those elements, but that’s an exception. These guys have to get better at their “art” before I’m going to get excited about it. Jurassic World has good CGI. There wasn’t a moment (except for the petting zoo) that I doubted the existence of the dinosaurs in that movie. Not the case in this trailer.

          Sorry, I need an energy drink.

          • Josh, you’re bringing a beloved movie into the mix. Not very objective of you. I think you’re letting your emotions cloud your judgment a bit. The fact that this Goosebumps movie is being compared to The Monster Squad has nothing to do with what I’m talking about. I’m simply defending CGI in general as an art, not just the CGI of this movie. I never said that the CGI in Goosebumps was amazing. I simply said it wasn’t bad. I think you missed my point about GGI not needing to be realistic in order for it to be considered good CGI. I like to think of it in terms of painting. There are many different styles of painting. You have expressionism, cubism, dadaism, photorealism, minimalism, etc. These are all incredibly different styles, but would you say that one is better than the other? Objectively, no. It’s the same thing with CGI. There are different styles and just because you don’t like or can’t relate to one doesn’t mean it’s bad. Cartoonish or not, great effort went into getting that particular look. Yes, Jurassic World is a great example of great looking CGI that was meant to look realistic. I agree with you 100% there. But again, that’s an unfair comparison when you consider that this is the source material where the Goosebumps art team is more than likely drawing inspiration from: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Goosebumpscastwithstine.PNG


  8. You did a great job flying solo here, Wolfman. It’s a really tough thing to manage, especially for more than half an hour. I’m not as big a werewolf fan, mostly because there are so few werewolf films that really do anything for me outside of “Dog Soldiers” and “The Howling”. I watched “Late Phases” last week and totally agree with you on that. It just falls short of being great, mostly because of the crappy werewolves and Tom Noonan seemingly acting in a totally different film than anyone else. But I still really liked it. It had a sort of “Bubba Ho-Tep” vibe to it for me, minus the comedy.

    • Thanks so much.

      Yeah, Bubba Ho-Tep is an interesting comparison. I have no idea what Tom Noonan was thinking here and I think Lance Guest missed the mark even more for me, because I think you could have saved most of Noonan’s performance with better editing and camera work.

      A lot of Dog Soldiers fans here. That really surprises me. I will have to get around to my rewatch sooner than later.

      • Now that I think about it, some of the weaknesses of “Late Phases” are answered in “Dog Soldiers” for me, and that’s part of why I love it so much. The werewolves in this film are horrific, deadly things, that look hella cool, and I feel everyone’s performance in that is very much on point. Throws in the “Night of the Living Dead” siege aspect of it, and it’s win-win for me.

        • Ok, ok, you’ve talked me into it. I just remember them looking like the grey aliens from Close Encounters with lanky arms flopping around too slowly to actually hit their target.

          • Heh. I can see that. There are some scenes where the werewolves are back-lit like they did the Greys in “Close Encounters…”. Hope you enjoy the re-watch.

          • I actually think the weird lankiness of the “Dog Soldiers” werewolf really adds to their creepiness but having just watched a clip on youtube I can sort of see where your criticisms of the execution/design are coming from, Josh. There is that element of them having to turn the whole torso just to turn the head. They do come across as a little cumbersome.

  9. The top 10 list of the best werewolf movies was probably the easiest list I’ve had to put together…It’s pretty much a no brainer because there really is only 10 good werewolf movies…In no particular order…
    American Werewolf in London
    Dog Soldiers
    The Howling
    Silver Bullet
    Ginger Snaps
    The Wolf Man ’41
    The Company of Wolves
    The Wolfman ’10
    Bad Moon
    Honarable mention…

  10. As far as picks for your next At Your Mercy episode, these are my picks:

    Bedevilled (2010)
    South Korean revenge film that is as crazy, violent, and bloody as you can expect from this subgenre. It’s fairly straightforward, so it’s more of a sit back and enjoy the ride kind of movie. It may not be everybody’s cup of tea, but it’s a very well made film that’s definitely worth your time.

    Session 9 (2001)
    I’ve championed this film several times and I’ll keep doing it until it gets the attention it deserves. This is a movie that doesn’t show it all, but rather gives you enough information to let your imagination do the rest. It’s creepy and atmospheric, and it has one of my favorite endings of all time. I get chills just thinking about it.

    I feel bad for recommending movies when one of mine already got picked, but what the hell, the more horror the better, right? Everybody wins!

  11. I’m gonna go ahead and just do a quick review of Goosebumps: The Werewolf of Fever Swamp. This is of course for the TV episode, although the overall concept from the book is the same

    Grady (Brendan Fletcher) and his family have just moved to Fever Swamp, Florida. Being a city kid and having to move there is no fun for Grady and his sister, but their parents are scientists and are studying how a small herd of swamp deer will adjust to a new environment. One day while venturing into the swamp, Grady runs into “the swamp hermit” and soon finally finds someone his age. His new friend, Will, warns him about the dangers of the swamp, the hermit, and of a local werewolf that prowls through the swamp during a full moon. After a strange new dog, literally, bursts into their lives, strange things begin to happen. Grady must convince his family, as well as learn himself, that things are not always as they seem in Fever Swamp…they’re usually much worse.

    You will recognize Brendan Fletcher as Mark from Freddy vs Jason. He’s done quite well in the Horror genre with roles in, Ginger Snaps 2, Alone in the Dark, Leprechaun Origins, and an episode of Bates Motel. The acting is quite exceptional for a mid 90s children’s show. The swamp has a great dark and foggy atmosphere, the sounds of the wolf howl are spine chilling and the story is pretty intriguing. I may be biased seeing as how I grew up with this show, but even I can admit that some episodes were very subpar, while some were definitely made with care. I always go back to this one. The cinematography is really very good and very pleasing for a fan of the gothic werewolf style like myself. If I could rate the Goosebumos TV series I’d give it overall a 4.5, but this particular episode I feel very comfortable giving it a 7.5. If you like werewolves, check it out for sure. It’s on Netflix right now under season 4 of Goosebumps. It is a two parter but still only lasts about 45 minutes. Give it a shot and I’m sure you can appreciate the care given to this particular episode…

    viewer beware, you’re in for a scare

  12. My top ten Werewolf Films:

    First, let me explain that the werewolf is actually another one of my favorite beasts in the horror genre. It’s probably number three, with my favorite being the Slasher and then the Zombie. This goes back to when I was a kid and I would catch Saturday matinee television broadcasts of Hammer Studio flicks on some station or another where I grew up. The idea of being forced to become a monster is something that touched very close to home for me, having grown up in the proverbial “broken home” due to rampant addiction and alcoholism. The idea of the Werewolf helped me to compartmentalize a lot of the real life horrors I’d faced as a youngin’. But, with that said, there aren’t an extraordinarily large assortment of films to pick from when listing the best:

    10. The Howling

    9. A Company of Wolves

    8. The Beast Must Die

    7. Curse of the Werewolf

    6. Dog Soldiers

    5. Ginger Snaps

    4. The Werewolf vs. the Vampire Woman:

    3. The Wolfman (1942): Lon Chaney Jr. plays Larry Talbot and sets the bar for a sympathetic protagonist cursed to become a beast by night. This is the movie that literally built the genre and popularized the monster itself.

    2. Silver Bullet: This film is a coming of age story with the werewolf doubling as the impending horror of its protagonist losing his innocence. Corey Haim is a wheelchair bound young man about to enter the most awkward years of his life when a series of brutal murders spreads a blanket of fear throughout the community. Haim discovers the beast responsible may be a werewolf and makes plans accordingly, reaching out for help from his sister and Uncle.

    1. An American Werewolf in London: I don’t think any other film has ever managed to capture the pure essence of a werewolf horror film as effectively as this movie. The horror isn’t just with the victims of the wolf, but with the transformation and helplessness of the protagonist who just happens to be the wolf. David is as sympathetic a protagonist as they come, his budding romance with the nurse is tragic, and the use of comedy often serves to juxtapose those horrific moments that eventually occur and disarms the audience with a laugh before wrenching our guts out.

    • redcapjack, thanks for sharing this and what the werewolf means to you. It’s funny how Wolfman Josh and others have often said there are few really good werewolf movies, yet you feel there are so many good ones to choose from. Just goes to show that everyone’s perspective is different.

      • I think there are a lot of watchable werewolf films, Dino, but very few that would make an all-timer list. I can name probably 20 vampire films that are 10s for me, but only 1 werewolf film. Maybe 2. It’s just under-served and has rarely been given thoughtful treatment by serious filmmakers. There’s no Francis Ford Coppola’s WolfMan. There’s no Interview with a Werewolf, or Shadow of the Werewolf, or 30 Days of Full Moon. As I’ve lamented, there’s no Stakeland for werewolves. I’m hoping that When Animals Dream will be the Let the Right One In for werewolves. Yeah, Silver Bullet is a classic 80s werewolf film that I’d happily put in the company of The Prowler or The Burning when talking cult 80s horror, but it’s not ever going to make a Top 10 list with The Shining or Jaws or Texas Chainsaw … sadly. I love the monster. It needs better films.

        • The wolf has such a long and important history when it comes to mythology and religion that it’s definitely under-served by cinema. It’s an animal that represents everything from feral, predatory brutality to base sexuality to purity and freedom. You’d think a really intelligent movie based on such a symbolically rich creature would just about write itself!

        • Personally, I’m kind of thankful there’s no Coppola version of the Wolfman or Interview… but probably not the real point. There have been attempts to take a serious approach to the werewolf, but the story somehow seems to miss the mark of hitting that perfect note: Wolf, with Jack Nicholson (for example) tried to create a mainstream werewolf film with some of the top actors of the time. It was directed by Mike Nichols (The Graduate) and it had a great budget- but the movie didn’t really go far enough for many horror fans and just seemed too askew for mainstream movie fans.

          I think there are good werewolf movies out there, but they’re often overshadowed by other monsters… and, quite frankly, it’s easier to use another monster in place of the Wolf for purely budgetary reasons.

  13. Another movie wolf-monster that really scared me from childhood was Gmork from “The NeverEnding Story”. I know it isn’t strictly horror but I had nightmares about that guy when I was a kid.

  14. Since we’re (sort of) on the topic of themed episodes, I think a found footage themed episode is somewhat long overdue. I’m not gonna lie – I love found footage.

    On that note, I have two found footage/mockumentary recommendations for the next At Your Mercy episode:


    I’ve talked a little about both these films in the past. TAKING is a 6.5/10 for me, and was #8 on my 2014 top 10 horror list. I didn’t really say much about the movie, but my comments on it are here >> https://horrormoviepodcast.com/horror-movie-podcast-ep-038-the-woman-in-black-2-angel-of-death-2015-and-the-top-10-horror-movies-of-2014/#comment-9544

    I gave ATTICUS a 7/10, but it takes awhile to get there (slow build up) so you have to be patient. My mini-review of the film is here >> https://horrormoviepodcast.com/horror-movie-podcast-ep-041-when-science-goes-too-far/#comment-11563

    • I’m not gonna lie, I love it that you also use the phrase “I’m not gonna lie”. It’s one of my favorites.

      I love found footage too, Dino. I don’t think the genre has evolved much, at least not in a positive manner, but I sure do love my found footage films. This type of film brings a very specific sense of atmosphere that’s hard to achieve without using the documentary look. What are some of your favorites if you don’t mind me asking?

      • I’m not gonna lie is such a great American phrase. Like the werewolf in cinema, under-utilized in my estimation.

        I agree that the found footage genre hasn’t really evolved much since it took off with THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT and, honestly, it’s hard for me to think of where it could really go. Seems to me like you either have straight up found footage, or more of a mockumentary style film. Which leads to the question: do you consider mockumentary films to fall under the found footage category? For simplicity’s sake, I do.

        One movie I’d love to see is a home invasion in the vein of THE STRANGERS or KIDNAPPED done as found footage, possibly using Dropcam-like security cameras or something like that.

        Some of my favorites in found footage (in no particular order):

        PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 1, 2, 3, & 4 (the first is #3 on my 5 Scariest Movies of All-Time list)
        THE BAY
        [REC] series (although, I have not seen APOCALYPSE yet)
        QUARANTINE 1 & 2
        GRAVE ENCOUNTERS 1 & 2
        APOLLO 18
        APARTMENT 143
        THE DEN

        As for BLAIR WITCH, I’m torn over it. I love the ending… it still gives me chills… but the rest of the movie has really worn on me over time. Not sure if I’ll ever voluntarily watch it again. I’m also torn over V/H/S and V/H/S 2. There are some really excellent segments in both, and some complete duds.

        There are also quite a few I have not seen that could very well land on a top 10 found footage list, including CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST, THE POUGHKEEPSIE TAPES, THE LAST BROADCAST, TROLLHUNTER, THE CURSE, and THE LAST HORROR MOVIE. I also have yet to see HOME MOVIE, which I remember JOTD championing back in the TWHMP days. Same with THE LAST EXORCISM movies… are they any good?

        In general, these films are not of the same quality as conventionally shot movies – GRAVE ENCOUNTERS 2 is only a 5/10 for me, at best, and THE DEVIL INSIDE is horrible – but there’s something about them that I just love.

        Speaking of found footage, I’m secretly (not so secretly, now) super jazzed about THE GALLOWS. Will probably go see it in two weeks (the week after it releases).

        • A found footage episode is definitely in the making and we have another interview with Eduardo Sanchez to go with it.

          Jay and I also have a review of The Upper Footage for an upcoming Frankensteinian episode and Grave Encounters for a TV Ghost Hunters type of episode, still to be solidified.

          I like your list, Dino. My love list is a lot shorter, but I enjoyed most of those.

          Blair Witch Project, Paranormal Activity, As Above So Below, Rec, Quarantine, Grave Encounters, and Exists all make my list.

          Security cam is a bit boring for a whole feature, but I don’t mind the incorporation of it.

          I think the first “The Last Exorcism” (that hurt my brain) is a must-see for found footage fans. Ultimately, it was a bit disappointing, but you’ve got to see it at least once.

          Not horror, but did you see The Dirties, Earth to Echo, or Project Almanac? All have problems (and I think the first and last have way too much pop culture to be timelessly rewatchable), but I think they’re all enjoyable films.

          I don’t remember hearing your thoughts on The Conspiracy. Do you remember when I reviewed it?

          I’m looking forward to The Gallows too.

          • That’s good news about a found footage episode. Definitely looking forward to that.

            Interesting that you and JOTD reviewed THE UPPER FOOTAGE for HMP. I haven’t seen it – and I don’t exactly want to open THAT can of worms – but doesn’t seem like a horror movie to me. Also glad to hear about GRAVE ENCOUNTERS… I know it’s been mentioned briefly on the show a few times, but some in-depth conversation would be fun.

            I have not seen any of THE DIRTIES, EARTH TO ECHO, or PROJECT ALMANAC. My interest in non-horror found footage is not that high, but maybe I’ll check them out. I also haven’t seen CHRONICLE, which I know is a crying shame.

            I do remember when you reviewed THE CONSPIRACY (didn’t JOTD review it, too?). Your review is actually what prompted me to watch it. I really liked that movie. I’m big into conspiracy-themed movies to begin with, and I liked the progression of the film from “straight-up documentary” in the beginning to full-on guerrilla investigation found footage in the end. Also, the soundtrack by Darren Baker is phenomenal; so modern and atmospheric. I basically listened to it on repeat at work for several weeks after seeing the movie. I don’t remember what you rated the movie, but I give it a strong 7.5/10.

          • I don’t remember what I rated it either, but I really like it, in retrospect and I listen to the soundtrack all the time too.

            I’d say that they are all worth a watch. Earth to Echo is a fun, modern (2nd rate) E.T. homage in the found footage style. Project Almanac has some of the worst stuff of these three films, but also some of the most interesting. I love time travel, though. The Dirties is as down and dirty as it gets and the performances are really surprisingly good. I like each of these as much as Chronicle in their own way. You just need to do found footage weekend and watch them all so you can return and report.

          • Earth to Echo had me going for the first half and then it lost me. I would even say skip it to be honest. It’s not even close to being the worst found footage film, but it’s kind of forgettable IMO.

            Now, Chronicle is a different beast. That’s still one of my favorite movies from 2012 and I’d say it’s one of the best, if not the best, found footage film ever. It’s that good, Dino. Trust me. I don’t want to put words in his mouth, but I believe Josh is a little more lukewarm about it, but I know Jay loves it (and for good reason). It’s a must and I can’t stress it enough.

            I thought Grave Encounters was super effective for a good 2/3 of the way and then it got super crazy and goofy and that’s when I lost interest. If it would’ve stuck to the tone established at the beginning all the way throughout, it would’ve been outstanding. It’s still very much worth watching.

            • The premise of CHRONICLE sounds super interesting to me and I’ve heard great things about it. It’s one of those movies that I have no real idea why I haven’t seen it yet. But, it’ll happen.

              I know what you’re saying about the end of GRAVE ENCOUNTERS, but it all works for me. I really like that movie (and the sequel, too).

          • I like Chronicle, but I don’t get the hype from Juan and Jay. It’s fine. I think maybe bc I watched the TV show Heroes, the concept wasn’t all that mind-blowing to me. I loved the first season of Heroes. It’s way better than Chronicle, in my opinion. And I think the first 3 seasons (is that all there are?) are almost on the level of Chronicle. I just don’t think the quality is markedly better than Earth to Echo, for example. They are both decent. They both have problems. Watch it, but do check out the others. You could show Earth to Echo to you kid.

          • And I don’t get why you don’t get why we think it’s awesome :/

            But in all seriousness, comparing Chronicle to the show Heroes is a disservice to the film. The first season of Heroes was fine. It was solid. And if we’re going to talk about being spoiled by something that came before it, then Heroes was spoiled by a comic book series called Rising Stars. It basically tells the same story and there are tons of parallels between storylines and characters that makes one wonder whether there was a little too much inspiration borrowed from the comic. But that’s besides the point. Chronicle is just a very well made movie that also happens to be a lot of fun. It taps into your inner child in the best way possible. Did you ever imagine as a child what would happen if you ever developed super powers? This movie tells that story and asks the questions —even if silly —that you yourself have pondered about: What if?

          • To truly settle the dispute, you’ll have to do a found footage weekend and watch Earth to Echo, Project Almanac, The Dirties, Heroes: Season 1, and Chronicle … and might as well throw in The Last Exorcism.

            Just FYI (I know how you like to follow along), we’re also going to review the sequel to Monsters next week or work it into an upcoming themed episode, so you can catch up with that, if you’re interested. It’s on Netflix.

  15. Guys, do you use the terms wolfman and werewolf interchangeably? Or do they mean different things to you?

    Also, 100+ comments so far! I think that’s proof that you didn’t need to worry about solo-casting, Josh. Good job, bro! I’m proud of you 😉

  16. Guys, I would also like to nominate 1995’s MOSQUITO as a candidate for the AT YOUR MERCY episode. I’m very curious to hear what you think. Personally, I love it with a passion and it’s one of the most underrated mosquito movies out there.

  17. Great solo cast, Josh. Huge werewolf fans and probably like the exact same movies all other werewolf fans do. American Werewolf in London, Howling, and Silver Bullet have always been my three favorites. I do like Ginger Snaps and Dog Soldiers (however, I feel that Dog Soldiers is such a Predator clone it’s hard not to be underwhelmed because Predator is quite a bit better).

    My recommendation for the ‘At Your Mercy Episdoe’ is Argento’s “Sleepless;” proof that all late Argento is not crap (at least in my opinion) – although most of it is. I would also love to hear your takes on “Tenebre,” so that would work as well. I can already hear Jay saying neither one of these are horror.

    I don’t comment as often as I should but wanted to let you guys know I look forward to this podcast every week. Before this podcast I had only listened to Sports podcasts so this was a great find. And because of it I’ve been turned on to so many others like “Zombie 7,” “Land of the Creeps,” “Found Footage Files,” etc. These all makes work so much more bearable. Keep up the great work.


  18. Great show, Wolfman!!! thanks for reviewing all those werewolf movies! I can’t wait to check them out. Jay, when can we buy the shirts?

  19. Hi Josh. I just wanted to point out that David Hayter is also previously and famously known for voicing Solid Snake in the Metal Gear Solid games. Just a fun fact. He did always say that he wanted to direct. Good for him.

    • Ahhh … ok, now I remember. I heard an excellent interview with him on the Creative Screenwriting podcast discussing Watchmen. It was incredible and he talked about the video game gig.

  20. I just love the sepia tones of the “state of the zombie” and “State of the werewolf” address icons on the sidebar. Classy stuff guys.

  21. I have a few At Your Mercy suggestions, could even be part of an Anthology theme.

    Tales From the Darkside: The Movie
    Trick R Treat

    I’d love to suggest an Evil Dead franchise review around the time the new Ash VS Evil Dead show premieres

  22. you know, I never really added my At Your Mercy suggestions: I’m just going to offer two.

    The Shrine (2010)
    John Carpenter’s Prince of Darkness (1987)

      • When I saw this recommendation, I thought a John Carpenter “Apocalypse Trilogy” episode would be great. But, then I realized the guys just did THE THING. :-/

        Still, if PRINCE OF DARKNESS is discussed, then you have to get into IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS.

          • Would love to see a retrospective look at the Apocalypse Trilogy, but considering how much attention the other two films get it would be interesting to get some focus on Prince of Darkness. I do think it’s underrated and I do also happen to think it’s amazing. I recently rewatched the new blu-ray release.

          • It’s really not that maddening at all, Josh. I personally think it’s an overrated movie that for some reason is perceived as a very scary movie, which it’s not. Trust me on this, Yoshi. You will watch this and you will go “uh, that was it”?

            • Totally agree. I really like the movie, but I don’t think it’s as scary or maddening as its reputation has made it out to be.

          • I liked the movie too, Dino. I guess I just went in expecting one of the best horror movies of all time and that’s mostly where my disappointment stems from. There are things about it that are quite creepy, and I love the eery and atmospheric feel of the movie, but overall it’s a little too whimsical for that type of setup. For me, the film’s tone is stuck somewhere in the middle between serious horror and B horror. And I’m not saying horror should be A or B. I’m fine with gradients. But I don’t know, it just didn’t click for me.

            • Well said. I had the same reaction the first time I watched it. It sounds like you and I are of one mind with this movie.

  23. Everyone seems to be throwing out multiple “At Your Mercy” recommendations so I’ll follow suit:

    Xtro (1982)
    Ostensibly a schlocky, low budget British B-grade sci-fi horror, “Xtro” turns out to be way more inventive and genuinely disturbing than it has any right to be. It definitely has a low budget feel and as you might expect some of the acting is a little sub-par but the wildly creative SFX, nightmarish atmosphere and mind-bendingly bizarre sequences more than make up for it. The “birth” scene is etched into my memory like a childhood trauma. In my opinion this is a rare example of a sci-fi monster b-movie that succeeds in being genuinely effective as a horror film.

    Jigoku (1960)
    Really I’d rather recommend “The Ghost of Yotsuya” (1959) which is a vastly superior film by the same director but that movie is almost impossible to track down anywhere so I’ll go with this. Fortunately the appeal of “Jigoku” is bolstered by it’s historical importance to horror cinema. Everyone knows H. G. Lewis as the “godfather of gore” but this movie does a god job of challenging that title. Released a full three years before “Bloodfeast” this film boasts a climax depicting the torturous fates of its morally transgressive characters in the Japanese version of hell (the literal translation of the title). Admittedly it takes a while to get there and the bulk of the film is more goofy 60’s drama than horror but when it finally transforms into a surreal nightmare of visceral punishment it doesn’t pull any punches.

    I’d also love to hear reviews of “Matango” and “Kwaidan” but I’m holding out for “Desert Island Horror” and “Japanese Ghosts” themed episodes.

  24. Hey guys, I really love the show and thought I’d finally get involved. I’m not sure if this is my official movie suggestion, but I was wondering if you’ve reviewed or mentioned the 2013 film called Evidence, from the director of the Fourth Kind.

    • Neil,
      This is such a weird, cool coincidence! I just now e-mailed the guys (moments ago) to ask them if they wanted to review “Evidence” (2013) because it’s streaming on Netflix! Crazy! It must be meant to be!

      P.S. Ep. 061 will be out late Friday night. Sorry, but it’s worth the wait.

      • Yeah, that’s where I saw it. I know not all of you are fond of the found footage format, but it’s a cool take on a slasher film. It also doesn’t hurt that known actors are in it.

        Thanks for the response. I can’t wait to see if you all end up reviewing it.

        Also, if I could make a suggestion, it’d be awesome to get a monthly “Horror on Netflix” show. I know all your Netflix-subscribing listeners would love to know what they should watch next.


        • Neil. Thanks for getting involved. We love to hear from our listeners. That’s a great idea. I’m sure we could add a segment to the end of our Frankensteinian show where we talk about what’s new to Netflix and worth watching.

          Also, I actually do a seperate show that exclusively covers streaming content. It’s not all horror, but we do get horror films in there from time to time. Check out MovieStreamCast.com

          Actually, I think all of us are open to found footage, when it’s done well, and we’re actually planning a found footage themed episode. This could fit there too. I was a fan of Thr Fourth Kind and have long thought a found footage slasher could be cool, so I’m very interested.

          • Hey Wolfman, about MSC (and TSFP, while we’re at it)… do you have an idea when those two shows will be back up and running with new content? I don’t mean to pester… this is free content you’re providing, after all… but there’s a little pit inside me that’s been empty lately. MSC and TSFP could fill that pit.

          • Dino- There are three episodes of TSFP ready to go, but I dropped the ball when I left the country and Mattroid has been trying to figure out the problem with the iTunes feed. As soon as he figures that out, we should be good to start posting TSFP again. There is a Avengers episode, a Mad Max episode, and Sci-Fi TV episode, and they are recording a time travel / Terminator episode here soon, I think.

            I’ve been dragging my feet a bit on MSC due to the travel as well, there was a part of me that thought I’ll just take this time off, but I could make the time to post an episode, I suppose. I have a few solo-casts that I just need to edit. See, pestering works!

          • David- The main reasons they didn’t go up quickly have to do with technical difficulties on Matt’s end and William and Matt bickering, so it’s not all my fault.

            I mean, they should be able to do it without me at this point. That was the plan. I was going to turn the show over to them once they were on their feet, but I will definitely take blame for those episodes not being handed-off before I left the country. That was my bad. I was moving and in post on a movie and I WAY over-estimated my free time.

            But, never fear. I have talked to Matt and things are being worked out to post these eps and record more.

    • Hey Neil, welcome to the boards.

      EVIDENCE is a movie I’ve been looking at for awhile now because it’s streaming on Netflix in the US. What did you think of it?

      • It’s got terrible reviews though. I’m a little wary of this. You guys watch it and let me know if it’s worth a Sunday afternoon.

        • Yep, those terrible reviews are what’s kept me from watching it. That’s why I was hoping to get a fan’s perspective (I’m assuming Neil liked it since he’s recommending it).

      • I enjoyed how they approached the found footage format and slasher genre. It wasn’t a movie I fell in love with but more like a nice treat I stumbled upon on Netflix. Those movies are either hit or miss. So considering that I wasn’t expecting much, I enjoyed the film and would give it a 6.5-7 (a solid Netflix watch).

        Let me know what all you people think.

  25. Im sort of behind on the podcast, but catching up now. Just wanted to let Josh know that it was a great solo-cast. Job well done and I agree with his reviews. On Late Phases, the werewolves in that movie really had that guy in the gorilla suit vibe along with a very cat like head. Also reminded me of the old Michael Jackson Thriller werewolf.
    With that in regards to WolfCop I thought the same thing somewhat. I liked the movie over all and all its cheesiness. I got the whole “so bad its good” and enjoyed it, but the one thing that takes me out of it is the comedy. I don’t need
    comedy with my horror, it just really takes me out of any sort of horror mood. That’s my 2 cents and again well done Josh.

  26. Firstly, let me say: great solo cast from Josh. I think he’s right in saying that its difficult to discuss films when it’s just you doing it, and even more difficult to give an overly unbiased opinion, which I think Josh tried to do.

    Secondly, I’m just wondering if anyone has seen the British film Night Wolf (2010). I remember this being a pretty good modern werewolf movie, though I’ll put a disclaimer here that I haven’t watched it since it came out and it’s almost faded to obscurity in my mind. It stars Gemma Attkinson (of British lads mag glamour girl fame: google images, go go!) and Tom Felton (of Harry Potter fame).

    Interested in hearing what people think.

    • Dan, very nice of you to say. Thanks.

      I haven’t even heard of Night Wolf, I don’t think, but it is going straight onto my list, although I wouldn’t say the cast is too promising. :/

      Thank you for commenting and thanks for the recommendation!

  27. Just listened to this episode.

    I agree that one of the main parts of Werewolf films is the transformation scene. An American Werewolf in London is the real benchmark of this, but once one has watched that scene, most others will seem pale.

    Next is the look of the monster. Here is one of the few situations where I think CGI or Practical Effects can’t individually pull off the right look. A mixture needs to be used, mainly for movement.

    It would be interesting to see a Werewolf version of the film Afflicted. Found footage could work in this situation.

    I will be watching the films in this list though, my partner “Needs” to see the Momoa one ha.

    Keep up the great work


    • Thanks, Daniel. I’m with you on all accounts … except for the NEED to see the Mamoa film. Haha. Bad instinct. I get it, though. That’s me with Shannyn Sossamn and Rosario Dawson.

      The look of the werewolves in Late Phases is so bad, but the movie is good. On the other hand, the werewolves look great in Wolves and Wolf Cop, but the movies suck. You can’t win!

  28. Great solocast, Wolfman Josh! I absolutely love Dr. Shock and JOTD, but you pulled this episode off wonderfully by yourself, good sir.

    Late Phases is my favorite werewolf movie to come out in ages. I just had so much heart! But yeah, the look of the wolves… yikes.

    I was drinking a lot of whiskey and had a decent beard going when I watched Wolfcop some time ago, and ya know… I felt like drinking would have made me a better werewolf, too. I really wish I remembered more of that movie, though. Ha ha.

    It’s interesting to me that decent werewolf films are so difficult to come by. Just like with the vampire or the zombie, this is a creature whose underlying themes and subtexts are worth examining in a film… providing that you have filmmakers who understand these themes and subtexts, of course.

    Anne Rice has some werewolf books that I’ve heard are worth checking out. Has anyone here read them?

    Thanks for a great podcast, Wolfman!


    • I’m with you on Late Phases.

      Love your Wolf Cop story. Haha.

      Mr. Watson wrote:

      “Just like with the vampire or the zombie, this is a creature whose underlying themes and subtexts are worth examining in a film.”

      I’m with you 100%. I haven’t heard anything about Anne Rice’s werewolf books, but they are going straight onto my Christmas list. I fantasize about making a great werewolf movie someday.

      Thanks for the comments and recommendation!

      • You’re very welcome, and thank you for your reply!

        Wolfman Josh, how do you best like to see the lycanthropy affect the given characters? For example, there are those who can change between their human and werewolf selves at will, and there are those who have no control over their condition to the point where they might not even have a memory of what they do while in their wolfen state. I’m not sure which I prefer myself, so long as the full moon has SOMETHING to do with it.

        • I grew up on Teen Wolf (the movies and the cartoon) so I have always thought of lycathropy as a mix. It’s a super power you can learn to control, but there are also times that it comes on and you can do nothing about it. Basically, like the Hulk. If you get mad, you “wolf out” (hulk out), if there is a full moon, you turn. The rest of the time you are working toward controlling your powers.

          Having said that, as an adult thinking about the underlying themes and subtext of werewolf movies, I like the idea that it always comes on when you don’t want it to. You’re still working to control your inner beast (rage, addiction, whatever) but you don’t really get to use it to your advantage as a superpower. it’s a curse. That’s an interesting movie concept, I think.

        • Strangely enough, the full moon had nothing to do with the original Wolfman (1941), at least the full moon is never shown. There is the saying…
          “Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.”
          In later Wolfman Movies the last line was changed to…
          “And the Moon is full and bright.”

          On days when there is a full moon, I like to watch a werewolf movie.

  29. Great episode Josh! I love werewolf movies. I thought you did a great job! I am curious as to when you’ll do the verses episode of The Wolf Man 1941 and 2010? I am very excited for that! The original is my favorite werewolf movie. I personally didn’t care much for the remake. There were things I liked and didn’t like. I’d also like to hear your top favorite werewolf movies list. Thanks Josh for responding to my previous post. I know you’re very busy.

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