Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 086: H.P. Lovecraft 101: An Introduction with Re-Animator (1985) and Castle Freak (1995) and Dagon (2001)

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You’re listening to HORROR MOVIE PODCAST, where we’re Dead Serious About Horror Movies… In Episode 086, our Elder God, Jay of the Dead, is absent while our Outer God, Wolfman Josh, and The Great Old One, Dr. Shock, improvise with an introduction to one of history’s most influential names in horror: H.P. Lovecraft. Nearly Lovecraft-illiterate themselves, Dave and Josh welcome horror scholar Carl Sederholm to the podcast to talk about the influence of H.P. Lovecraft on contemporary horror as well as tease his new book, The Age of Lovecraft. Dave and Josh also review three of the most prominent Lovecraft adaptations, all from Director Stuart Gordon and Writer Dennis Paoli, Re-Animator (1985), Castle Freak (1995) and Dagon (2001).

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SHOW NOTES:

I. Introduction
— Son of Horror Movie Podcast aka The Freaks Take Over the Castle
— Theme: H.P. Lovecraft 101


[ 0:06:40 ] II. INTERVIEW AND THEME DISCUSSION WITH CARL SEDERHOLM
— Introducing horror scholar Carl Sederholm, author of The Age of Lovecraft
— Carl lists his Top 10 Horror Movies!
— A brief interview with Carl Sederholm on H.P. Lovecraft
— Discussion of Lovecraft’s work, his influence on contemporary horror, and Carl’s book.
— Lovecraft film adaptations
— Book giveaway


[ 0:33:44 ] III. Feature Review: RE-ANIMATOR (1985)
Dr. Shock: 8.5 ( Buy it! )
Wolfman Josh: 7.5 ( Buy it! on BluRay, for collectors )


[ 0:47:25 ] IV. Feature Review: CASTLE FREAK (1995)
Dr Shock: 8 ( Buy it! )


[ 1:01:00 ] V. Feature Review: DAGON (2001)
Wolfman Josh: 7 ( Buy it! )


[ 1:10:25 ] VI. Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending
— More on cinematic Lovecraft adaptations


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116 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 086: H.P. Lovecraft 101: An Introduction with Re-Animator (1985) and Castle Freak (1995) and Dagon (2001)

  1. Gotta say, I dig that you guys are covering a movie like Castle Freak instead of going for the more well known From Beyond. Along with the two Re-Animator sequels, it opens the door for another HP Lovecraft episode in the future.

    It’s been a long time since I’ve read any Lovecraft. When I was a teen, I had bought three story collections from Lovecraft. He had a great knack for creating fear without going into detail about what the characters were actually seeing. It makes it tough for film adaptions, but it’s unique for stories.

  2. Just in case anyone was wondering, I checked the MGM “Scream Legends” Vincent Price DVD collection that I have and it does NOT include The Haunted Palace. It DOES include:

    -Tales of Terror / Twice Told Tales
    -The Abominable Dr. Phibes / Dr. Phibes Rises Again
    -Theater of Blood / Madhouse
    -Witchfinder General

    • well done on the lovecraft ep, both you and shock. there is a great tome, published in the nineties about HPL adaptations called “Lurker in the Lobby’. you can probably find it on amazon.

      also wondered if any of you had heard of a movie called ‘eyes of fire’ from 1983. its a period horror piece that is quite enjoyable, but never got a dvd release. any chance the community here could make some noise about that if they’ve seen it? i’d be interested to hear a review of it, but it’s waaaay obscure and as i said, only on vhs. you can look it up on imdb to see what i’m talking about. if you can find it, i recommend it.

  3. Great show you guys!!! I’m really digging this. I love the Lovecraft, and I can’t wait to check out these films. Especially Castle Freak. I’m a big Poe fan, and really love Pit and the Pendulum, so I’m going to get to it ASAP.

  4. I don’t want to defer the conversation away from he film right off the bat, but one of the best modern examples of Lovecraft inspired entertainment is the game Bloodborne made by From Software. It’s truly one of the most decedent and most mysterious horror experiences that exist.

    https://youtu.be/voMAx-lKfIw

  5. I am so glad you guys did a Lovecraft episode! I have almost watched Castle Freak a few times, and am definitely going to watch it now. Carl was a great addition to this episode and his mention of the story “Pickford’s Model” reminded me that I had seen a television version of it. It was an episode from the Night Gallery series (of which I am a big fan). It’s currently on Hulu if anyone wants to check it out.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/58795

    • Thanks for sharing this! I didn’t know Night Gallery was on Hulu! I love that show so much. Used to watch it with Mom, and it gave me nightmares!

      I’m going to check out this episode now!

      • Have you ever seen the William Castle produced series “Ghost Story”? The second season was renamed “Circle of Fear”, and both seasons are from the early 70’s with a Night Gallery vibe. I love Night Gallery more, but they are a good watch and most of the episodes are on youtube (for when you get done watching all the Night Gallery episodes).

        • Whoa, ya Circle of Fear rings a bell. I haven’t actually watched it, but my Mom told me that she used to watch it a lot. I need to check it out. I love these shows! I didn’t know that was a William Castle show! Awesome!

    • I really enjoy the “Pickman’s Model” episode of Night Gallery. Thanks for your comment and thanks for listening.

  6. I knew Jay was an unnecessary part of the podcast. (Just kidding, Jay!) BTW- I have a Castle Freak action figure from Full Moon Toys.

  7. I enjoyed this episode on Lovecraft. I own a book of his stories and have yet to read them- so you inspired to go dig out that book! The Stephen King story Jerusalem’s Lot is one of my favorites. I just saw Return of the Living Dead – would be interesting one for your horror-comedy episode.

    • Same here. I spent all morning looking for my Lovecraft collection. Let us know if you have any god experiences there.

      Return of the Living Dead will definitely be coming up in this Horror Comedy episode, but more so in our upcoming Zom-Com episode.

  8. I don’t know that Lovecraft’s endorsement of “reality” in horror should in any way be conflated with Jay of the Dead’s preferences. As far as I’m aware almost all of Lovecraft’s stories dealt with the supernatural and the “realism” he strove towards was more to be found in his eye for detail and subtle approach to narrative. He wanted to make the stories seem believable as accounts of actual supernatural happenings as opposed to gutting them of the supernatural elements altogether (which would have pretty much extricated them from the horror genre as it was at the time). His approach was a far cry from Jay’s advocacy of realism in horror, which in my mind is a confusion of the horror genre with drama based on events that would be frightening in real life.

    • David wrote:

      “I don’t know that Lovecraft’s endorsement of ‘reality’ in horror should in any way be conflated with Jay of the Dead’s preferences. As far as I’m aware, almost all of Lovecraft’s stories dealt with the supernatural and the ‘realism’ he strove towards was more to be found in his eye for detail and subtle approach to narrative.”

      That was my feeling about Lovecraft and what I was trying to get at when talking about “fantasy” and “the uncanny” but I still think Jay would appreciate that basic idea of making the implausible feel plausible by grounding it in something recognizable.

      • I expect you’re entirely correct, Joshy old boy. Likely I’m being grossly unfair to Jay here. But I’d argue that my unfairness may in fact be a refraction of his tendency to drizzle blanket denigrations upon the supernatural aspects of our so beloved genre.

        Can someone make a GIF of Kirk screaming “Kaaaahhhhnnnn!” but with text reading “Jay”. I will be grateful.

  9. Lovecraft has some great stories. I’ve read some, albeit a few years ago. Many are just as described in this episode: long-winded with some older language. and at times difficult to get through. They are indeed similar to Poe’s work, so if you like Poe you’ll dig H.P.

    If you’re new to this author, a good starting place for Lovecraft is “At the Mountains of Madness.” This is an awesome tale that takes place mostly in Antarctica. The setting and tone is reminiscent of the “The Thing” and “Alien.” There is plenty of missing persons, death, winter elements, and mysterious creatures. I’m still waiting for this to be adapted into a feature film.
    I read a while back that Guillermo Del Toro was at one point trying to get this film made, but I think it fell apart.
    Maybe Icarus Arts can get this made???

    • I saw an adaptation of that story announced on Twitter. Seemed like a smaller indie film.

      You’ve sold me 100% on reading it, however. Sounds right in my wheelhouse.

      And, with Carpenter’s affection for Lovecraft, I’m now curious if it was an influence on The Thing.

    • As much as I love the writer, he does have an awful lot of purple prose… why say something in one sentence when you can describe it in exquisite detail with a bunch of adjectives that do very little to offer anything with regard to a physical description.

      • He is famous for his purple prose. We talk a little bit about it in the book partly to acknowledge that it can be really difficult and partly to say that maybe weird fiction requires a little more florid language. In any event, Lovecraft does take some getting used to.

  10. This episode was a fantastic dive into some of the true roots of the horror genre. I’m afraid it’s one of those episodes that makes me feel like a horror pretender, though, because my knowledge and background on the topic is essentially non-existent. That’s why my comments so far have devolved into sophomoric banter and friendly trolling of good ole’ JOTD.

    However, while I don’t have much to contribute in the way of constructive discussion, I can say that my interest has certainly been piqued. Big thanks to Wolfman Josh and Doc Shock for making it happen.

    • I mean, I felt the same way. Dave and I both. That’s why this was so much fun. It was a joy to learn what I did and that’s one of my favorite things about all of this … discovering new-to-me, classic horror.

      And I think Carl’s a great resource for the podcast.

      Just think of all of the hours of literary, cinematic and gaming entertainment that lies ahead of us if we go down this rabbit hole. I’ve been having so much fun just making connections between Lovecraft and his connections to work I already admire.

    • I feel like a bit of a pretender sometimes too. I only really started getting familiar with Universal monsters a couple years ago, and it’s been a lot of fun. My only real experience with Lovecraft has been through video games and the few short stories I read with my room mate in college.

      I’m far more familiar with Poe and King.

      I’m hoping to use this as a jumping off point for Lovecraft. Both Re-Animator and Castle Freak are on streaming right now via Netflix and Hulu respectively. So far, Castle Freak is silly, but fun.

    • I know very little about Lovecraft as well, but he seems to be trending that last couple of years. Everyone’s talking about him. After this introduction, I’m inspired to read some of his stories.

      I didn’t even know most of the movies mentioned were from Lovecraft stories. Well done Dr. Shock, Wolfman Josh and Carl.

  11. Wolfman Josh –

    +1 for your creeper comment; that made me chuckle.

    For the record, I’ve sent in three voicemails to HMP, none of which were played on the show. The first was an impassioned critique of It Follows, the second was a simple and fun question for the hosts, and the third was an observation of modern horror conventions and potential question for the “Horror Movie Answer Men.”

    The last voicemail I sent in was briefly mentioned by JOTD at the end of “Ep. 58: The Infected Narrative” – he said you guys would address it soon, but then nothing…

    Anyway, the moral of the story is that this pattern has dissuaded me from sending in more voicemails. I’m not complaining about my prior VMs not making the show – I actually wrote a note to JOTD when sending them over that it’s totally cool if he chooses not to use them on the show – but don’t call me out for not sending any in!

  12. First off… I would absolutely LOVE a Doctor Shock solo-cast. You’ve already got a listener here, sir. Can’t wait for those e-books as well!

    Man, I really need to check out Movie Stream Cast and Movie Podcast Weekly, too.

    I always forget about sending in voice messages. I have a small but high quality recording setup for producing music (and an upcoming podcast!), so I’ll holla at my boyz and send in some audio. If Jay of the Dead doesn’t get that HMP rap written, I may have to step up and send a rap in as well. 😉

  13. Okay now, regarding this episode… I’m a pretty big H.P. Lovecraft fan, so I really appreciated this episode.

    Lovecraft was such an interesting figure in horror. It’s sad to me to think that like Stoker, he was unappreciated in his time. The homie died poor. Good thing his works turned out to be so influential. I guess the cream really does rise… even posthumously. Of course, the man was not without his faults. Are any of you HMP peeps familiar with the World Fantasy Awards controversy surrounding Lovecraft?

    If not… recently, it’s come out that Lovecraft had some pretty negative views about race. Well, POSITIVE views if you’re white. Not so much if you’re not. (Wasn’t his wife a eugenist?) Anyway, the World Fantasy Awards are a big deal in the literary community, and the award itself is a bust of Lovecraft. Well… up until last year, that is. They’ve decided that in order to embrace ALL fantasy fans and writers, the award could no longer be in the image of Lovecraft.

    Nigerian-American author Nnedi Okorafor was one of the 2011 American Fantasy Award winners and is quoted as saying, “A statuette of this racist man’s head is in my home. A statuette of this racist man’s head is one of my greatest honours as a writer.”

    Heavy stuff. I won’t say too much more. Here’s a link to an article about all this that I just found in The Guardian. If you haven’t heard about Lovecraft’s newly discovered racism, this piece will tell you about it.

    I’m not trying to be TOO negative here about Lovecraft. I am still a fan of him just as I’m still a fan of any number of creators whose art must be separated from who they themselves are as people… if such a thing is possible. Was he bad man? Was he a product of his time and place? Complex stuff.

    On the lighter side of things…

    I actually have two H.P. Lovecraft inspired shirts from this European company that puts out literary graphic tees. Check it! http://the-affair.com/product-category/printed-t-shirts/

    Anyway, I’ve recently been listening to a whole lotta Lovecraft audio books. Wolfman, if you want to hear a great version of “At the Mountains of Madness,” check out THIS version here on Youtube. It’s the best one I’ve heard, aside from the four-part reading of it on the podcast TALES TO TERRIFY. That version was amazing, but this one is too. Check it, G! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CRJmcJf_YI

    Lastly, for the video gamers… I don’t play video games much, but there is a game for the Nintendo Gamecube called ETERNAL DARKNESS that is so Lovecraftian that it hurts. I LOVE this game.

    Good reviews, Wolfman and Doc. You certainly can hold a show down yourselves. I’m glad you mentioned SPRING, too. That movie is pretty much Before Sunrise meets Lovecraft, although, I’m pretty sure I read that somewhere. Plus, my favorite rapper, Cage, is in SPRING. I’ve written enough. Good show, gents!

    • Is his racism really that newly discovered? maybe I’m misremembering but I’m pretty sure some of his stories deal in pretty offensive stereotypes and remarks. I kind of always assumed he was a bit of a bigot. Fortunately I don’t think it’s an aspect of his personality that seeps into his work to a disruptive level but he was certainly a very insecure person in many ways. That stuff is totally indefensible to me but I try my best to separate the art from the artist (though deep down I believe such efforts are to an extent futile). In my mind he’s a wonderfully imaginative writer marred personally by his negative social-politics.

      Out of pure randomness here’s a song by The Mountain Goats that uses Lovecraft’s disturbance at the multi-cultural nature of his time spent in Brooklyn as an allegory for paranoia in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHgZRGLgo0&nohtml5=False

      • Thanks, David. I’ll check this song out right now.

        And you’re right about Lovecraft’s racism having been always apparent. When I wrote my comment, I meant “recently publicized,” not “newly discovered.” Yeah, man… my friend Rob (who is black) told me all about Lovecraft’s bigotry, and I wasn’t surprised. What DID surprise me was how my friend Rob still considers Lovecraft to be in his top three favorite authors. The whole separating art from artist thing… which makes sense if you think about it. I mean, hell, how could any of us enjoy many of the biggest bands in rock n’ roll if we didn’t try to look past the artist’s faults from time to time. I dunno. It’s a crazy issue, and you worded it well, David. I’ll check that song out now. :)

    • Lovecraft’s racism is a very difficult problem and it is one that readers and scholars have wrestled with for a long time. Lovecraft’s views mellowed as he grew older but there is no denying some of the truly awful things he said. This is a huge debate and I can’t resolve it here. We do talk about it a little in the book. I tried to approach it in terms of looking carefully at the fiction. I also tried to talk about it in terms of focusing on the good in the overall work and not throwing out the fiction entirely because of the author. I have followed the controversy about the statuette for the Fantasy Award with great interest. I have no problem with the change.

  14. This show always reminded me of the movie “Spring” as it was mentioned briefly in the show.

    Just wanted to let you guys know that I’m acquaintance to and have met with Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead the duo that made “Spring” and “Resolution”, and I bet I could help you get the two of them on a show. They are super nice and very receptive to being on shows like this.

    Also, it will come as no surprise that Justin Benson knows a lot about Lovecraft!

  15. I love that this show was entitled “An introduction to Lovecraft” rather than a full exploration of his work in the realm of horror, both cinematic and literate. And I loved the content of this episode and where it went, even if I felt it barely scratched the surface of the writer and his influence on what horror is in this day and age. And I especially love the interest this topic has sparked in Lovecraft’s work- so with that said I would like to add something to the conversation:

    Regarding his “realism”- Lovecraft did not write about fantasy or supernatural elements in any real way, his work is actually rooted in science and the exploration of the unknown. We never see Lovecraft exploring the idea of vampires, other than those that come from space. We don’t read about ancient curses, other than those traits which may come through hereditary traits in a bloodline. We don’t read about the salvation of a higher power, but rather that we are hopeless, lonely, and utterly helpless in a cosmos we can’t begin to grasp or understand. Much of the “supernatural” work he’s inspired is through a rose-tinted lens of the receiver. In fact, many of the “supernatural” aspects of the Cthulhu-Mythos were introduced by August Derleth and other writers who borrowed from aspects Lovecraft initially created. And I’m of the personal opinion that this kind of horror would very likely appeal to JOTD- and has appealed to him, based on some recent reviews I’ve listened to.

    Regarding the films: “Castle Freak” is a fun movie so long as you ignore the idea that it’s in any way, shape, or form based on a Lovecraft story. The original story is, literally, one small scene from the entirety of the running time of the film- to make a short story shorter, it’s about a ghoul crawling up from the depths of a nearly bottomless tomb and, upon seeing himself in a mirror, lashes out only to realize that this was his reflection.

    Stuart Gordon Lewis is a capable director who brought Lovecraft to the screen for one reason: Public domain. He initially wanted to film an adaptation of Frankenstein, but a friend of his recommended “Herbert West: Re-Animator” as an alternative. Amusingly, this story was initially published in a comedy pulp and was written as an over-the-top gorefest in four installments and is one of Lovecrafts least favorite stories… it was literally just a paycheck to him. The sequel, “Bride of Re-Animator” is actually a little more faithful to the source material by taking West to the Warfront and showing his growing fascination with the resurrection formula.

    I have nothing to add regarding “Dagon”, however. It’s a good movie all around- and is one of several adaptation of “the Shadow Over Innsmouth”. It’s almost tempting to say that this may be the most adapted story from Lovecraft’s work, but that actual honor belongs to “The Colour Out of Space”, which saw adaptations in the early day of film with “Die, Monster, Die!”, in Stephen Kings work on “Creepshow” and in recent works including “The Colour out of Darkness”… basically, anytime a meteor lands and does something weird to the people around it, that there is your nod to Lovecraft.

    Regarding Fulci- Actually, all three films from his trilogy were strongly inspired by Lovecraft and while he may have once only mentioned two of them in an interview, the influence is felt just as strongly in “The Beyond”. Carpenter, also, credits his “trilogy” (The Thing, Mouth of Madness, and Prince of Darkness) to the influence of Lovecraft. We see Lovecraft’s influence with the original Evil Dead, definitely a nod in The Descent, and the list can just go on and on. I’m a huge fan of Lovecraft!

    My personal introduction to Lovecraft was two-fold: First, I had a Fangoria magazine with a full page ad for an upcoming film from Full Moon video- an adaptation of “The Lurking Fear” (Barely a connection in the actual work) and the poster just absolutely enthralled me. Second; the film version of “The Unnamable”… not a great film, not a great introduction to the work of Lovecraft, but it did feature the recurring character of Randolph Carter and sort of defined the character for me when I started to get my hands on books in the library.

    In closing, several years ago I wrote a list on my blog regarding films that saw a strong influence from Lovecraft and were terrific mood-setters in order to understand the work of this author. You can peruse my list of around ten movies… and I tend to go into detail about what it is with regards to the film that separates it from typical “horror” and makes it approach “Lovecraftian” horror.

    http://redcapjack.blogspot.com/2013/08/10-lovecraftian-horror-movies-not-based.html

    • PS: The HPLHS made a second film based on Lovecraft’s work and filmed it in the manner of the 50’s B&W “menace” type of films- “Whisperer in the Darkness” is mostly faithful with some liberties taken near the end for the sake of cinematic pacing. There is also a concept album available for “Dreams In a Witch House” which is a proposed “rock opera”-type show… I really liked it.

      Here’s a link to a music video for a song in the show.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXOLWLf_z30

      And, Wolfman, as you can see you opened a can of worms when it comes to Lovecraft and me… I’ve written two stage adaptations myself, neither of which has yet been performed but I’m still working on bringing it to life in the stage.

    • Awesome insights, RedCapJack. Thanks for that. I’m going through your comments with a fine-tooth comb. IT HAD to be an introduction because it was an introduction for us. After all this renewed interest in Stuart Gordon and Lovecraft, maybe we can to the Lovecraft Masterclass in a year or two.

    • I don’t have much to add here, only that it’s fun to read Lovecraft’s comments on how to write fiction and to realize how much he talked about realism. I’m not sure what debates have gone on about that on this show, but Lovecraft certainly believed in the importance of setting things up so that they might seem real, even when they were impossible. He thought that made things more frightening.

  16. Really enjoyed the interview with Carl Sederholm. You guys should do that more often with the leading expert of whatever you happen to be covering. It adds an interesting spice to the podcast. Huge fan of Lovecraft as well. If I recall, the Necronomicon and De Vermis Mysterius are also attributed to him. However, they’ve transcended fiction and many paranormal researchers believe them to be ancient texts which can be used to summons spirits.

    • We’ve tried it a couple of times, but it’s never gone well until now. We do try to bring in superfans of different genres and we are looking at bringing in more filmmakers. But, yes. This is the perfect kind of guest. Might try it again thanks to Carl’s showing.

  17. Hey just curious for a possible HMP meetup…

    Any idea how many listeners are in or around Utah? I’m thinking Friday May 13th…

    Nothing fancy, just bring a nice projector and sound system in to the woods to watch some Friday the 13th… lol, I’ve wanted to do that forever!

  18. Great episode, Josh & Dave.

    I love the new format of the show sans Jay.

    Just kidding, Jay. I’m sure Josh & Dave will invite you back for your “Beastly Freaks” segment periodically. Just give them plenty of notice.

    All seriousness regarding #86, without being a “student” of Lovecraft, I certainly felt like I would be interested in learning more about the man. Great interview & interesting choice of films to review.

    I might catch some hate, but never have been the biggest fan of Re-Animator. It’s a film that is part of my collection, but may only reach for it every couple of years. I prefer to watch Combs in The Frighteners.

    I guess we better start making some voicemail efforts, HMP fans. Wolfman went all “full moon” on us at the end there.
    ———————————————–
    Re-Animator: 7.0/10
    Castle Freak: 7.0/10
    Dagon: 6.5/10

  19. My recent revisit of the NoES and F13 franchise reviews had me flustered and made me dive in to the numbers. Turns out, Nightmare on Elm Street didn’t really suffer that badly in the numbers, and instead only suffered from JOTD’s condescending attitude in many of his reviews. haha. no, I’m kidding, thanks again for suffering through both this franchises guys.

    Anyway, don’t think anyone really cares haha, but here are the numbers:
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yy2e8j1smuf26xp/AAD7nPAw1Y_1MYSRmJ-fdhUsa?dl=0

  20. I’ve just discovered this podcast and I love it! As well as the Sci Fi Podcast. Great stuff and I will be checking all the archived eps out asap. Just a quick note on HPL film adaptations; one of the very best and least mentioned is Dan O’Bannon’s adaptation of The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, called The Resurrected. It also went by the name Shatterbrain for some reason, as the IMDB entry lists. But whatever the case, it is a very faithful retelling of the classic, even if it is a more modern take on it. Definitely worth a watch. I’d rate it at 8 maybe even 9.

    Anyway, looking forward to listening to more of your awesome discussions and reviews. The Resurrected link—> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105242/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1

    Take care,
    Eric

  21. Just another thought, while on the topic of Lovecraft; a show could easily be put together on movies that aren’t so much straight adaptations but that have used the themes found in this stories. For instance, probably the most notable is Carpenter’s The Thing, while not an actual adaptation, it’s a direct nod to Lovecraft and his At the Mountains of Madness. As well as Carpenter’s Prince of Darkness and The Mouth of Madness. Carpenter is on record as a huge Lovecraft fan. But there are numerous other movies out there that share these Lovecraft thematics. The recent Absentia, for instance. Banshee Chapter is another one. Although it could be said to be a sequel to From Beyond. The actual story, not the movie. It basically says as much in the movie’s storyline. And for fun, you can even go all the way back to Equinox, as well as the classic Hammer horror, 5 Millions Miles to Earth. Both of which either share or are directly influenced by Lovecraft.

    Anyway, I guess I really love my Existentialist Horror :) But it is a fun topic and one I’d love to hear it if the opportunity ever presented itself.

    Take care,

    Eric

    • I saw ‘Equinox’ for the first time last year. After having seen the Evil Dead movies countless times that is a very odd movie to stumble upon. It’s so poorly made but much like something along the lines of ‘Plan 9’ it’s oddly endearing.

      • For me, Equinox is one of those movies that’s so bad it’s good. I love it for more emotional reasons than anything else. And I always wanted to do something artistic wise with that world. I would love to get my hands on the rights.

        It’s notable for featuring an early performance by Frank Bonner, who would go on to play Herb Tarlek in WKRP in Cinncinati. Also, if I recall correctly, Fritz Lieber had something to do with the screenplay. But I am spitballing there. I’d have to delve back into it again to double check where I got the info.

        Take care,

        Eric

    • I’ve always thought Carpenter’s work was heavily influenced by Lovecraft. He reads Lovecraft and borrows the idea of slowly building horror / doom from him.

  22. Just caught up with Re-Animator last night finally. Man, I loved this thing. Equal parts funny and scary. I loved the humor, and the gore effects were top notch. Even the acting was quite good for the most part. Specifically loved Jeffery Combs as Herbert West and David Gales as Dr. Hill. I couldn’t quite get over how much Bruce Abbott reminded me of Anthony Perkins. haha

    And speaking of Psycho related things. Man oh man, I can’t remember if it was referenced in the episode, but this score has to be the worst offender of ripping off Herrmann’s Psycho score. Totally blatant. It not only rips off the same triplet sixteenth rhythmic motif from the opening credits, but it even goes so far as to nearly verbatim take the first few bars of the melody from the opening credits. I actually found it offensive. I think this composer should have gotten sued hahaha. It eventually started detracted from the film at parts because it stuck out so badly.

    The other shock here was how that this could’ve gotten an R rating in 1985, but reading on Wikipedia, it looks like the unrated version is probably the one that is currently on netflix. The entire last sequence has more full frontal nudity of both sexes than most horror films that I’ve seen of that era, and the gore effects are pretty extreme at times. It was completely riotous and had me laughing and cringing the whole time. 8.5/10 buy. I need to pick it up.

    • The Psycho score rip-off is something we forgot to talk about in the review, but it has been mentioned a couple of times here, just not with the musical knowledge you brought to it. I loved your take on this.

      Regarding the rating, I watched it on BlurRay and I’m not sure if it was R-rated or Unrrated. There is some nudity, but I don’t remember as much full frontal as you mentioned.

      I’d probably have enjoyed Bruce Abbott more if I had made an Anthony Perkins connection.

  23. Thanks everyone for their interest in the show and for your nice comments about my part on it. I always love to talk about horror and about Lovecraft and I’m so happy for your interest. Feel free to write me with questions or other comments. If any of you pick up the book, I’d love to know what you think.

    • Carl, your input was perfect for this episode. I’m hoping the hosts have you back for future episodes, for sure.

  24. From David via Twitter:

    “I meant to bring up a movie called The Resurrected (aka Shatterbrain) in the comments of The Lovecraft HMP episode. It’s a little known adaptation of the Lovecraft story The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. It’s not amazing and very endemic of early 90’s horror but worth checking out for Lovecraft fans or folks on the lookout for cool gross-out practical effect movies. Directed by Dan O’Bannon too.”

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