Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 113: The Devil’s Candy (2017) and Deathgasm (2015) and Heavy Metal Horror — With Actor Ethan Embry and Director Sean Byrne

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This is HORROR MOVIE PODCAST, Episode 113, a face-melting themed episode wherein your hosts—Jay of the Dead, Dr. Shock and Wolfman Josh—summon special guests Chris Robo and “Carl of Cthulhu” Sederholm to discuss Heavy Metal Horror and feature review The Devil’s Candy (2017) and Deathgasm (2015). We also have killer bonus interviews with the director and the star of The Devil’s Candy, Sean Byrne and Ethan Embry!

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SHOW NOTES*

[ 00:00:00 ] I. Introduction
-Jay’s actual life-theateneing surgery

[ 00:06:47 ] II. Guest Voicemail
-Voicemail from podcaster GregaMortis from Land of the Creeps on Metal and Horror

[ 00:20:23 ] III. Theme Discussion: The Unholy Union of Metal and Horror
-Welcome Guests Chris Robo and Carl Sederholm
-How did this ‘marriage made in hell’ begin?
-Email from listener Allyson the Horror Unicorn from Portland, OR
-Exploring the films in the sub genre
-Email from listener Juan from Dallas, TX
-Email from listener David Cassette from Scarborough, UK
-Metal songs in horror films

[ 01:20:49 ] IV. Feature Review: Deathgasm (2015)

-Dr. Shock: 7.5 ( High-Priority Rental )
-ChrisRobo: 9.5 ( Buy It, for Metalheads Who Like Horror! )
-Carl of Cthulhu: 8 ( Stream It or Rent It Before You Buy )
-Jay of the Dead: 6.5 ( Stream It On Netflix )
-Wolfman Josh: 8 ( High-Priority Rental for Comedy-Horror Fans)

[ 01:52:45 ]
 V. Guest Voicemail

-Voicemail from listener DarkMark about the Cinefamily screening of The Devil’s Candy

[ 01:56:19 ] VI. Feature Review: The Devil’s Candy (2017)

Carl of Cthulhu: 9 ( See It in the Theater )
Wolfman Josh: 10 ( Theater / Buy It! )
Dr. Shock: 9 ( Theater / Buy It! )

[ 02:16:21 ] VII. Interview: Ethan Embry
-Ethan Embry on The Walking Dead, CheapThrills, Empire Records, The Guest and a whole lot of The Devil’s Candy!

[ 02:38:23 ] VIII. Interview: Sean Byrne
-Sean Byrne on The Loved Ones, the state of Australian cinema, the state of horror cinema and a whole lot of The Devil’s Candy!

[ 03:10:20 ] IX. Wrap-up
-Follow Chris on Twitter @RottenRobo
-Follow Carl of Cthulhu on Twitter @CarlSederholm
-Buy Carl’s book The Age of Lovecraft on Amazon

[ 03:16:20 ] X. Hidden message: Jay of the Dead’s Metal Story

LINKS FOR THIS EPISODE:

-The Onion: “Recently Single Al Gore Finally Able To Listen To W.A.S.P. Albums

-Dee Snider’s Full PMRC Senate Hearing Speech: “Dee Snider vs Tipper Gore

-Best Heavy Metal Songs in Horror Movies from GeekScape.net

-See if The Devil’s Candy is playing at a theater near you at IFCFilms.com

-Rent The Devil’s Candy on Amazon ($4.99), iTunes ($6.99) and YouTube ($6.99)

-Watch Deathgasm on Netflix.com

Jay of the Dead’s links:
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Jay of the Dead covers new releases in theaters on Movie Podcast Weekly
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Follow Josh on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @IcarusArts
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Josh covers streaming online movies on MovieStreamCast.com
Follow MSC on Twitter @MovieStreamCast
Like MSC on Facebook

Dr. Shock’s links:
Dave writes daily movie review on DVDinfatuation.com
Follow Dave on Twitter @DVDinfatuation
Like Dave’s DVD Infatuation, now on Facebook
Josh cover the Monsters Universe, new and classic, on Universal MonstersCast.com
Dr. Shock also appears on another horror podcast: Land of the Creeps

Dr. Walking Dead’s links:
Order Kyle’s new book! How Zombies Conquered Popular Culture: The Multifarious Walking Dead in the 21st Century
Order Kyle’s previous books American Zombie Gothic and Triumph of The Walking Dead
Follow Kyle on Twitter @DrWalkingDead

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135 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 113: The Devil’s Candy (2017) and Deathgasm (2015) and Heavy Metal Horror — With Actor Ethan Embry and Director Sean Byrne

  1. Great episode guys. I’m holding off on The Devil’s Candy review until I get the chance to see it. Hope all is well Jay.

    I absolutely loved Deathgasm, great fun to be had. Certainly a potential franchise on their hands as this seems to be a movie which will generate a cult following. I definitely couldn’t help but think of this as a modern day Bill and Ted. On that topic I’m sure an argument could be made for Bogus Journey having horror elements; devil, hell and a killer easter bunny!

    The injection of metal in horror certainly seems to bring a camp element. However, on the other end, I see Slipknot as the flag bearers of horror in metal. Their early video ‘Spit it out’ was a clear tribute to The Shining. Whereas their more recent videos, for example ‘Devil and I’ plays like a horror short. Not to mention their fitting soundtrack of Resident Evil.

    Although more Punk than Metal, I find the influence of The Ramones on Stephen King fascinating. Their marriage on Pet Semetary was fantastic!

  2. This is a great podcast, great episode.

    I have to mention the guitarist Buckethead for this thread on heavy metal horror. Just take a look at him. Then take a listen to this great virtuoso.

    Christopher Lee did some metal later in his life, released a few albums of his own. They’re worth checking out, because it’s Christopher Lee.

    • I’m not too familiar with Buckethead but I do recall coming across a video of them covering the beautiful Riz Ortolani theme song from Cannibal Holocaust.

      • David, thanks for that. I found a video of him playing the Cannibal Holocaust theme, live, 10 years ago, very nice. I’m a guitarist myself, and I”m a big Buckethead fan.

        This horror-metal topic is such rich ground for discussion; It could easily fill more time than HMP’s epic 80’s slasher series.

    • I’m not too familiar with Buckethead, but what I’ve really liked what I’ve listened to. He seems to have a deep library of music, which kind of makes it a daunting task to go through.

      I love Christopher Lee’s metal albums. They’re super cheesy and not for everyone. His vocals, although awesome in their own way, do stand out. It’s some fine power metal though.

      • Juan, yeah, the Christopher Lee metal, it’s really corny stuff, but it’s so much fun. And he really took it seriously, made a point to call it “Symphonic Metal”. Metal nerds get really particular about the proper labeling of the many subdivisions of the genre. : )

      • Juan, Buckethead is so totally horror. When I was listening to the HMP guys talking about metal/horror he was the first musician I thought of. You’re right that his catalogue is daunting, so many recordings, so many. They’re so good though, HMP listeners/commenters, please listen to Bucketead!

          • Wolfman Josh,
            Yeah, he’s talked about the “Three Michaels” as great influences; they are Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, and Michael Myers.
            The mask he wears is similar to Michael Myers, but not the same.
            On stage he often wears a dark blue mechanic’s coverall, and that is just like Michael Myers.

  3. Great episode. I was bummed that I missed the chance to see Devil’s Candy in LA. I think it would be very cool to get HMP listeners in the Los Angeles area together to see a movie.

    Anyone interested?

  4. Whoah, great interview with Ethan Embry and Sean Byrne! I’ve heard Ethan interviewed 3 times about The Devil’s Candy and this was the most interesting and in depth review. I also loved Sean’s quote “If you care, you scare.” Why don’t more horror films develop their characters better?

    • Thanks, Mark! That’s quite a compliment. I think I was the first person to interview Ethan Embry about The Devil’s Candy (at least since IFC acquired the film, I don’t know what happened at film festivals). Shame that we had to wait until the film was released or we would’ve scooped everyone!

      Because Ethan is one of my very favorite actors of his generation (and because he was very gracious with his time) I did another full hour with him covering almost his entire film filmography and we’re going post that in the new Movie Podcast Network feed with a little “Ethan Embry Tribute” episode from me, Mattroid (from The Sci-Fi Podcast) and Geek Cast Ry (from Movie Podcast Weekly). Should be fun.

      And Sean Byrne was a real pleasure to speak with too. I have great hopes for what he could do for the horror genre going-forward. Super talented guy. I agree with you about the “If you don’t care, you don’t scare” comment being phenomenal. That’s something I’ll be quoting on these podcasts for the rest of our run.

    • I wholeheartedly agree. Both interviews were fantastic and both guys came across as incredibly genuine, insightful and intelligent. You can tell they have a deep understanding of how important characterisation is to the genre.

      One of my biggest problems with some horror movies (particularly more modern slasher flicks and remakes) is that filmmakers seem to have expanded on the tradition of including one or two reprehensible characters per movie (usually implemented to provide a little satisfying schadenfreude amidst the tension) to the point where every character is a despicable piece of s***. I know some fans who are only in it for the kill scenes enjoy that kind of thing *cough*Billchete*cough* but for me it dissolves any potential emotional connection and strips away all the horror. If you can’t relate to the characters on some level then it’s much harder to vicariously feel their terror. It’s a huge error in judgement on the part of the filmmaker if their aim is to deliver a memorable and affecting experience.

      So it’s very heartening to hear what Sean Byrne had to say in regards to this issue. I’ve yet to see any of his movies but look forward to doing so after this. And it was also awesome to hear how dedicated Ethan is to crafting his roles into fleshed out, three dimensional characters.

      • I like horror movies where they make the killer so damn likeable that you feel disgusted with yourself for not hating them.

      • Yeah, I had to stop listening to the review of The ?? because Mark’s voicemail really pumped me up. After listening Mark talk about how carefully curated the soundtrack was, I had to look up the tracklist because I was very curious about the director’s song choices. I was very surprised and initially slightly let down by the song choices but after reading the reason behind each choice, I came out even more excited to watch the movie. I’m having a really hard time keeping myself from watching the movie before Sunday night, which is when I will be checking it out at a proper movie theater. I have ridiculously high hopes for this. Like The Witch high.

        • Where did you see Sean Byrne’s soundtrack breakdown, Juan? I read this article on Bloody Disgusting (which I agree was AWESOME to read), but it was kind of brief. Wondering if you found anything more substantial. I recommend this to anyone wondering about the musical choices in The Devil’s Candy and wish I’d had this on hand when we did the review.

          http://bit.ly/2nwVfyV

          • Sorry, I’m just catching up on comments. That’s the same article I read haha. It is short, but pretty sweet. Having read this prior to seeing the movie (I think there are a few that are missing from that list, actually) made me appreciate the soundtrack a lot more. Not that it wasn’t great already. It’s one of my favorite musical experiences ever. This movie HAS to be seen at the theater to truly experience it the way it was meant to.

          • And I agree with everyone here. Both interviews were great. I love how down to Ethan Embry’s warmth. You could tell he really cared to get this right and he did. Sean Byrne blew me away. He’s the type of director horror needs. Someone with great ideas that can execute them and that cares enough about the genre to elevate it. I’m dying to see what he does next and I hope it doesn’t take 6 years for that to happen. I wonder if he’d be open to try crowd funding.

    • Personally, I think that Stephen King is the best at developing characters in horror. The Shining is a great example for developing characters as in most of the movie NOTHING HAPPENS, but he does it even better in the book in my opinion. As Children Of The Corn is only forty pages, the movies are terrible.

      I haven’t actually listened to the episode because I haven’t seen any of the movies so I might just be repeating Sean here… In real life the dumbest things can be scary, like a creak downstairs or just being in an alley at night. As things become more real, everything gets scarier. Like in a drama if a kid went to a hospital for a seizure, It would be sad. but if everything was done perfect it would be super scary. This is why I think the Siege Narrative is so freaky, (A reference to a weekly horror movie podcast episode I am not sure of.) I think the horror in Get Out wouldn’t be scary whatsoever if It wasn’t for the great character building.

      Some other good examples are, Alien, Blair Witch Project, The Conjuring, The Conjuring 2, Dawn of the Dead, The Exorcist, Green Room, Misery, Jaws, Poltergeist, Psycho, The Thing, The Wailing, The Witch,

      P.S. Sorry If I’m just repeating myself

  5. Carl and Chris brought some great heavy metal knowledge to the discussions. I didn’t know there were so many heavy metal themed horror films. Trick or Treat sounds good! Here’s a list I made on Letterboxd of the films mentioned in this interview.

    http://boxd.it/10YX8

    • Thanks for doing that, Mark! That’s an awesome resource.

      I was going to spend my morning going back through the episode to put them in the show notes, but now I don’t have to.

    • Yeah I liked what Carl and Chris brought to the table, especially because their views on the topic differ a bit from mine. They seem to be a little more loose on their classification and definition of metal (Carpenter as metal kind of blew my mind, but I can see it), which made me realize that I’m a bit of an elitist when it comes to metal haha. I don’t consider myself as the typical “that’s not true metal” metalhead, but I do draw the line somewhere and I draw it hard.

      Out of everyone featured on the show it seems Carl’s tastes align the closest with mine, so that’s nice to know. Oh and David from what we’ve talked about.

      • Juan, I really liked your comments that Josh read on the show. You have good insights into these topics and definitely have good taste in metal. When it comes to metal, I’m pretty loose as to what counts, mostly because I have eclectic tastes but try to see everything in terms of heavy music anyway. My preferred genre is actually doom metal, but I’m open to all kinds. Thanks again for all your good and nice comments

        • Aww you guys are way too kind.

          Carl, doom is another of my favorites. I think it’s right there with black metal and then closely followed by thrash and NWOBHM. I like all types, but I think those tend to be the ones I gravitate to the most.

          What are some of your favorite Doom bands/albums?

    • I don’t know if you want to include these other films that we discussed on your list, Mark, since your list are all films that are essentially ABOUT metal, but just in case…

      Other metal movies we discussed ( I think you just missed these ones):

      Dark Floors (2008)
      The Lords of Salem (2012)

      Other movies we discussed that make use of metal music:

      Phenomena (1985)
      Demons (1985)
      The Return of the Living Dead (1985)
      A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)
      The Lost Boys (1987)
      New Year’s Evil (1980)
      Jason Lives: Friday the 13th Part VI (1986)
      Opera (1987)
      Night of the Demons (1988)
      Ghoulies II (1988)
      Shocker (1989)
      Killer Party (1986)
      Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III (1990)
      Bad Channels (1992)
      28 Days Later (2002)
      Saw (2004)

      Other movies we discussed with a metal vibe:

      The Witch (2016)

      Three documentaries we mentioned and one we should have:

      Until the Light Takes Us (2008)
      Anvil! The Story of Anvil (2008)
      We Are Twisted F***ing Sister (2014)
      I Am Thor (2015)

      And movies we discussed that inspired metal:

      Black Sabbath (1963)
      Witchfinder General (1968)
      The Omen (1976)
      Suspiria (1977)

  6. Prior to watching The Devil’s Candy. I was pretty skeptical when I first began hearing Wolfman Josh’s big praise of the movie. I figured it’d just be a safer bet to assume his long wait for the movie and being a fan of Ethan Embry may have caused him to think a just good movie was actually great. After renting the movie on Amazon on Friday, apparently Wolfman Josh’s opinions were 100% spot on. Considering my rating for the movie, it’s going to be extremely difficult for any horror movie to beat it out for my #1 spot come December when we’re putting together our end of the year top ten lists.

    What I loved the most was the family relationship especially between Jesse and Zooey. I find the older I get, the more I appreciate seeing these sort of very strong family bonds in movies because they’re so rare to see. Typically, families in movies are either bare bones and there isn’t much of a chance for any chemistry to be found, either the kid is a brat or the parent is a jerk, or they’re trying to form something but the writing isn’t there. Despite his looks, Jesse is this extremely caring father, that although he’s a touch of a screw up, it absolutely kills him whenever he lets Zooey down. These sort of bond in relationships played a big role in liking the characters not wanting any of them to die.

    Ethan Embry bringing up Rob Zombie in the interview with Wolfman Josh because The Devil’s Candy felt like a Zombie film in grittiness, but it lacked the gratuitous language and crude characters. Essentially, this was exactly the sort of film I wish Zombie would be making. That heart and caring about his characters is not found in his movies typically, which is why The Devil’s Rejects firmly stands tall as his best movie because it’s the one time he nailed people who cared about each other, causing the viewer to care as well. Now I’m wishing Sean Byrne had been given the Halloween remake and sequel instead of Zombie.

    —SPOILERS FOR THE DEVIL’S CANDY—

    One of my annoyance with Hollywood movies is where we get that happy ending with all of the main characters surviving. There’s not a lot of emotional weight to the fact that only meaningless side characters were offed. Yet, The Devil’s Candy touches on something I do love – keeping the main characters alive, but making me lose all hope that they would. With that hugely intense scene with Astrid, I thought for sure that she’d die. I figured it’d only make sense that Jesse would end up sacrificing himself in order to save his child. After the surprise death of the younger brother swinging on the swing instead of his older brother and their dog, I wasn’t even sure if Zooey would be safe. As long as a movie can trick me into believing that characters aren’t safe, I’m firmly on board with all of the main characters surviving like in The Devil’s Candy.

    —END OF SPOILERS—

    The Devil’s Candy also keeps you guessing what’s going on. Once the family moves into the new house, I began to wonder if this was going to be an Amityville type story. The scenes with the art dealer gave me some serious Starry Eyes vibes to cause me to wonder if Jesse was going to unintentionally crawl into bed with Satan in order to become a success. There’s even the chance that the entire movie was building up to a big twist at the end and that the Devil wasn’t actually going after Jesse, but perhaps either Zooey or Astrid. Not to mention, there’s the whole question of if this movie is about a legitimate haunting or if it’s just a mental deal. I do think that some of these things may be done as red herrings just to keep the viewer guessing as to what’s the real big bad of the story.

    Overall, with the strong family relationships, the intense grittiness, caring about all of the characters, some legitimately creepy scenes, and all of the unexpected moments, I absolutely loved The Devil’s Candy. I’d be interested to re-watch it late in the year to see if it still holds up, but for now I confidently rate it a 10/10. Go out of your way to watch this and I suppose have more faith in Wolfman Josh’s opinion…maybe.

    • Great thoughts on this film, Sal! One of the things Keith Calder (producer for The Devil’s Candy) said at the Q&A was that they filmed more scenes with back story but then tried to cut out the scenes that explained too much. He said in his experience the unknown is great for horror so it it’s good to film the back story and then cut what you don’t need. Finding that balance was important to them and ultimately the film is what was shown and those parts that were scrapped are left to interpretation.

        • The Belial gallery angle seemed like it could’ve been a little too cliche, but I’m actually really curious as to where Sean would’ve taken it. Man, I can’t wait for the baby blue!

  7. One thing I had intended to do in their introductions or in the sign-offs was to ask Chris Robo and Carl of Cthulhu for some metal recommendations and to tell us some of their favorite current bands. We didn’t actually get into that very much and probably didn’t named-drop enough quality, contemporary bands.

    If you see this, Chris or Carl, please leave us your picks for some of the best records or bands to check out. I’m personally most interested in black metal, but I’d love to know what you’re listening to.

    I also regret that we didn’t get a link out to Carl’s metal reviews. Feel free to leave those links here, if you’d like.

    • That would be great. I’d love to hear some recommendations. There were some great name-drops throughout the episode though. I think Carl mentioned Ghost who might be too “poppy” for a lot of metal fans but are a modern band who really capture that fun, theatrical late 70’s style of melodic metal. Sort of Black Sabbath meets Blue Oyster Cult.

    • I’m going to butt in and make a few recommendations of my own and the album I think you should absolutely have to listen to. The bands below are a few favorites of mine and I think encompass what contemporary black metal sounds like (they all sort of borrow from other genres, but are black metal at their core):

      Agalloch – The Mantle
      Alcest – Les Voyages de l’Âme
      Deafheaven – Sunbather
      A Forest of Stars – The Corpse of Rebirth
      Oranssi Pazuzu – Valonielu
      Watain – The Wild Hunt
      Wolves in the Throne Room – Celestial Lineage

      I guess you could call these post-black metal if there’s such a thing haha.

      I’ll go ahead and recommend bands from two of my other favorite subgenres, doom and death metal. I’m not as familiar with newer bands when it comes to death metal, so it’ll mostly be older stuff.

      Doom Metal:
      Ghost* – Opus Eponymous
      Electric Wizard** – Dopethrone
      Inter Arma – The Cavern
      Neurosis – Honor Found in Decay
      Pallbearer – Sorrow and Extinction
      Sleep** – Dopesmoker
      YOB – Clearing the Path to Ascend

      Death Metal:
      At the Gates – Slaughter of the Soul
      Gojira*** – The Way of all Flesh
      Death – Individual Thought Patterns
      Dethklok**** – The Dethalbum
      Entombed – Left Hand Path
      Opeth – Blackwater Park

      *Ghost is a curious band because they are very poppy sounding like David mentioned, but it’s a very deliberate sound. They do fall on the doom side of the spectrum for me though.

      **Electric Wizard and Sleep are older bands, but their sound quintessential doom metal and Electric Wizard in particular does base many of their lyrics on the occult.

      ***Gojira is another hard to categorize band. They are very technical and progressive, but I believe their sound is rooted in death metal.

      ****Dethklok is a made up band for a cartoon show, but damnit do they play some of the best metal out there.

      Ok I’m going to stop because I’ll keep going on forever.

      • This list is a great resource, Juan. Lots of stuff I haven’t heard and otherwise wouldn’t have known where to start regarding which albums to check out and such.

        And what I’ve heard of Alcest and Deafheaven is great. Both those bands definitely have a “Post Black Metal” kind of sound drawing influences from post-rock and shoe-gaze in particular. Very atmospheric, textured and powerfully beautiful. An Autumn For Crippled Children are another band in that sort of vein that I really enjoy.

        I think the only other bands on this list that I’ve given enough time to are Death and Ghost so I have a lot of stuff to check out.

        • When it comes to Black metal I think you also have to remember there is the Kvlt scene and then there is post 93′ BM. Most of the originals is where you should start. Regardless of some of their ideologies they’re very interesting.
          Mayhem
          Burzum
          DarkThrone
          Emperor
          These bands were all big in starting the movement during the time of the murders and church burnings. If you’re a reader you may want to check out a book called “Lords of Chaos” about the whole scene back in 93′ “The Year of Misery”
          Now BM has become a different scene with a lot of various bands stretching from evil satanic themes and then some go the route of traditional pagan themes and nature worship and walk the line of nationalism people and country.
          Also Josh if your interested their is a documentary called “Until the Light Takes Us” that gives you a quick run down of the scene back in 93′. Also another doc that can be found on Youtube called “Once Upon a time in Norway” again basically educating people on the 93′ scene. So much is dedicated to that time because they were the fore fathers of bringing the genre to what is today, thus also bringing forth the motto “True Norwegian Black Metal”
          A lot of the newer bands usually list those 4 bands as major influence. They also explain the “kvlt” or raw style that is black metal and why they choose to have poor quality audio which is interesting in itself.
          Sorry if I repeated any information from someone else. Im at work and had to mention a few things myself. Personally a few of my favorite bands are Gorgoroth – Norway
          Marduk – Sweden
          Watain – Sweden
          Behemoth – Poland
          Burzum – Norway
          Nargaroth – Germany
          Tsujder – Norway
          Carpathian Forest – Norway

          Just a few also if you want to see a great photo/coffee table book you can check out the book True Norwegian Black Metal by Peter Beste a Houston photographer who spent some time out in Norway and put together an amazing photo reference book.
          So last but not least, a great cast guys and I cant wait until the next one. Hope you guys got the sticker!

          • Will,

            I loved your comment. Yes, absolutely you’re right, I just went with more modern metal as requested. But if you’re going to go that route then you have to mention the real forefathers of black metal: Venom and Bathory.

            The book you’re talking about is great. I’ve seen it in person though I don’t own it. There’s another great book called Lord of the Logos that has some great art and images in it. I’m sure you’ve heard of it.

            http://usshop.gestalten.com/lord-of-the-logos.html

      • Love Ghost and Electric Wizard. I don’t think I’ve heard Pallbearer; I will check them out.

        Curious if you’ve listened to Orange Goblin, Juan? I don’t get into as much of the newer stuff as I probably should but they are a pretty great band to come out of the last decade or so.

        • I hadn’t prior to this comment, but I did and I liked them a lot. They’re definitely my brand of metal. Thanks for the recommendation, Jonathan!

      • Solid choices in the doom category, Juan. All would be on my list as well, plus these:

        Kylesa
        Black Tusk
        Deadbird
        Floor
        Dark Castle (they tour with YOB a lot)
        Baroness (red/blue albums, not yellow and green or later)
        High on Fire

        Also, even though it had no metal music in it – I feel like the VVitch was what doom metal would absolutely look like if it were personified through a film. Hah! Thoughts?

        *side note – Pallbearer is fucking amazing live – I saw them with Saint Vitus at the grog shop in Cleveland a few years back.

    • Thanks for the opportunity, Josh. I’ll keep it contemporary since you asked and sprinkle in some bands i’ve taken a liking to as of late:

      The Black Dahlia Murder: Juan, you may like these guys since they are basically At the Gates/Scandinavian melodeath-worship. Lots of horror film influence from lyrics to videos
      Cattle Decapitation
      Converge
      Skeletonwitch
      Ringworm
      The Banner
      Power Trip
      Young and in the Way
      Aversions Crown: Specifically, the Tyrant album
      A Night in Texas: Specifically, the God Delusion album
      Consumed With Hatred: A local DC band my friends are in, really good stuff

      I could go on and on with older/out of commission bands, but the contemporary limit helps shut me up 😀

      • Chris, The Black Dalhia Murder is a name that comes up often, but I’ve never taken the time to check them out. Given your description of them though, they sound like my kind of band. I love Converge and Power Trip. Great to know you’re a fan.

        I would love to know more of the stuff you listen to. Josh’s rules were meant to be broken ?

        • Yes, defintely break those rules! So metal. I just didn’t want a rehash of all the 70s and 80s stuff we talked about on the show. Was interested in getting into the best of what is out there now.

        • Juan, i think you’d dig BDM. try the Nocturnal album. i’ll add to the list when i have more time. thanks for the interest.

      • I’ve seen converge more times than I can count back when I used to not be as lame and boring as I am now.

        • The greatest/craziest show i’ve ever been to was Converge, Pulling Teeth, Rise and Fall, and Coliseum. I actually have the flyer hanging at my cube at work – 2009

      • Glad to hear Jay is OK. So to follow up with this. Some of my all-time fave heavy bands, since it was requested:
        Converge (yes, I already said it, but i’ll say it again :))
        Poison the Well (early albums)
        Remembering Never
        Cave In (early albums)
        The Chariot
        Shai Hulud
        Norma Jean (early albums)
        The Number 12 Looks LIke You
        Between the Buried and Me

        Hardcore bands:
        Bane
        Verse
        Have Heart
        Comeback Kid
        Trapped Under Ice
        Bad Brains
        Black Flag
        so many more…

    • I loved Juan’s comments about The Witch! I am not a Metal connoisseur but it made so much sense to me. It kept popping up in my mind when I was thinking about Satanic Panic movies.

      • You’re welcome, Josh. I’m just glad my words were somewhat good enough for the show. Like I said, I wish I had gotten more into the relationship of metal and horror, but I think you guys did a fine job. Great episode!

        Allyson, I loved your comment too. And David’s of course. Everyone did a fantastic job.

        • While I’m not as big a fan of The Witch as you are, Juan (I don’t know anyone that is), I agree that it is very metal.

  8. Due to loving The Devil’s Candy, I finally got around to watching The Loved Ones on Sunday night. While it’s not as good as The Devil’s Candy (What do you mean it’s not as good as a 10/10 movie?!) it’s a really strong first effort by Sean Byrne.

    If The Devil’s Candy was a Rob Zombie movie with heart, The Loved Ones was a torture porn film with heart. The film never shies away from the violence and the sick aspects of the film, but you really care about the characters. As some guy always says (His name escapes me at the moment), “Horror happens to those who deserve it the least” applies perfectly to this movie. The main character of Brent is someone who is going through absolute hell through no fault of his own. The fact that he’s now put in this series of torture, despite not even properly intending to trigger his antagonists is rough to watch.

    Surprisingly, I even found myself interested in the slightly random subplot with Mia, the goth girl. I’d be completely down with seeing a teen comedy with the geeky Jamie trying to woo this way out of his league Mia. By time the film was over, I found myself really wondering about the backstories of Lola and her dad. I’m curious as to when the morbid evilness began with them because at various points, I thought both of them were responsible for the other’s downfall into craziness.

    The Loved Ones is well worth the watch and now that I’ve seen and loved two of Sean Byrne’s horror films, I plan on keeping an eye out for his future movies. There’s potential in Byrne being one of the best present horror directors.

    Overall, I gave the Loved Ones 8.5/10

    • Well, he made it out of what seemed like a 10 hour surgery, where everything seemed to go according to plan. According to his wife, he could blink “yes” or “no” the next morning. Later that day he was breathing well enough that they could move him out of ICU. We heard that he could sit up and was happy. As far as I know, only his mom has seen him. I think his wife stayed home with the kids.

      He was supposed to get his phone back today, so I’m hoping he has seen all of the nice Twitter messages and these comments here at the site.

      I did hear that he’d had some unforeseen complications today that required some additional work, but I don’t feel like I should give out any details right now. We haven’t heard much, but I have been putting out the occasional updates in the HMP Twitter feed and I will continue to do so.

      • I haven’t heard the episode yet, but just reading that Jason is having any kind of medical emergencies has me pretty damn distressed. Much love to him and his family!

  9. Hi everyone: I post reviews of metal albums at seaoftranquility.org. You can find reviews of albums, concerts, and other fun stuff. We also review concerts and post interviews with bands.

    As for recommendations, I know that Ghost has come up regularly in these comments. They are a very good band with a growing fan base. For some, they will be too poppy but if you like 70s hard rock with an edge, then you’ll probably like Ghost. They are going to tour with Iron Maiden this summer, so you can check them out. I thought it was interesting that Ghost posters appear in both Light’s Out and The Devil’s Candy.

    As for horror-themed metal, it’s really hard to get a good list since the bands influenced by horror are so numerous. I mentioned Zombie Assault’s album Video Nasty on the podcast. I really enjoyed that album. It pays tribute to Lovecraft and to 80s Italian horror movies.

    I also really like Orange Goblin’s album A Eulogy for the Damned which has a killer song on it called “The Fog.” For a really dark album that should be in a horror movie, check out Dead Procession’s Rituais e Mantras do Medo. It will haunt your dreams.

    For just good heavy metal, check out any of the albums by Death or Mastodon. For recent black metal, I really like Haxxan. For doom, I love Windhand and Pilgrim. There are so many, I feel bad for just listing these few. Feel free to write me for more suggestions or for your own recommendations.

    • ‘Eulogy for the Damned’ is such a great album. I will be seeing Maiden and Ghost this Summer; it will be my first time to see Ghost live so looking forward to it.

      Mastodon is nuts. Not sure it’s my cup of tea but they can be fun if you are in the right mood.

      • I really like Mastadon, from the little I’ve heard. I’m way into Brent Hind’s other band, Fiend Without A Face. I’m using two of their songs for the temp soundtrack in a documentary I’m cutting right now. Insane stuff, but not metal, probably.

  10. Another great episode guys!

    Me being a Metalhead myself I was looking forward to this episode. I was able to catch The Devil’s Candy when it was available on VOD on the Playstation Store. I wasn’t expecting this serious of a movie. As was discussed, metal normally gets a joking portrayal in movies/TV, Deathgasm and Todd vs Book of Pure Evil. Metalheads usually get stereotyped as stoner idiots. I’ve seen where Metal has been compared to Classical music in complexity and intelligence. Anyway, back to The Devil’s Candy. This will make my Top Ten list for sure this year. It was just a well made movie all around. I’m a fan of art also, and loved the artwork. The Evil painting reminded me of the cover of Slayer’s Hell Awaits for some reason. The acting was great by everyone, although I didn’t totally believe Pruitt Taylor Vince’s character as a mental patient. I totally related to how Jesse wanted to be a good Dad to Zooey and failed a couple times. Been there done that myself with my two sons. Overall, it gets a 9/10

    Deathgasm is just a over the top Comedy-Horror movie and it’s one of my favorites in the Comedy-Horror Genre. Blood, Guts, Boobs and Metal, what more do you want? My 16 year old self just can’t resist this movie! 10/10

    If I were to make the Horror Movie I want to make, I would have a Metal soundtrack myself. Horror and Metal go so great together. Most Horror is pretty violent and a lot of Metal Music is violet also. I tend to think Metal is beautiful and has a calming effect on me, which other’s don’t understand. Same with Horror, people ask how I can watch someone get slashed with a machete? I’m a pretty black/white guy, I like things either extreme or mellow, just like the Music/Movies I like. I like The Devils Rejects just as much as I like Toy Story. Can’t get more opposite than that!

    • You sound very similar to DarkMark. He’s a big fan of animation and horror.

      I totally get the calming effect of loud music. When I was in a punk band, one of my favorite things to do was go over to my drummer’s house and take a nap on the couch next to his drums while he and one of the guitarists rehearsed at full volume. I’d drift off to sleep so easily and have the most relaxing sleep.

      I don’t quite get how you rated Deathgasm higher than The Devil’s Candy, but I’m glad that you enjoyed TDC so much and I’m glad it will make your year-end list. Right now I have it vying for my top spot of the year with Get Out.

      • TDC and Deathgasm are two different movies even though they share Metal elements. Like I said the only thing I didn’t totally buy was Pruitt Taylor Vince’s character, otherwise it would of been a 10.

        I’m more into Thrash/Groove Metal: Machine Head, Warbringer, Havok and Byzantine. Also, a lot of Progressive Metal: Opeth, Mastodon, Soen and Between The Buried and Me. I do listen to all Genres of Metal: Allegeon, Killswitch Engage, Periphery and Sylosis. I’m just a good music listener. I will break out some Prince, Ratt, Imelda May and The Crystal Method from time to time. My favorite band will and always be Fugazi. When I heard them for the first time at the Skatepark it opened up my world to so much more Genres of music.
        The most Metal Horror Album for me is Iced Earth – Horrorshow. Here’s the track list:
        1. Wolf
        2. Damien
        3. Jack
        4. Ghost Of Freedom
        5. Im-ho-tep (pharaoh’s curse)
        6. Jeckyl & Hyde
        7. Dragon’s Child
        8. Transylvania
        9. Frankenstein
        10. Dracula
        11. The Phantom Opera Ghost

        As you can tell, most of the songs come from the Universal or are old school Monsters. Not all the songs are must hear, but Damien and Dracula are. “I am the Dragon of blood, the relentless prince of pain. Renouncing God off His throne. My blood is forever stained.” Metal.

          • Fugazi is much more in my wheelhouse. One of my favorite bands of all time. I had always liked their music peripherally, but it was Jem Cohen’s excellent Fugazi documentary “Instrument” that really took them over the top for me. I love them.

        • Back in my younger days, I went to a ton of concerts. I had over 250 ticket stubs hanging on my wall and that was just the Ticketmaster Stubs, didn’t include the ones at local venues I went to. I’ve seen some great bands live, Nirvana, Tool, Metallica, Fugazi, Primus, Pennywise, Pink Floyd just to name a few. With my Dad playing guitar for over 60 years, music is in my blood. I don’t play any instruments but have been involved in friends bands being a roadie. I have so many fond memories seeing shows. Tattoo The Earth and Lollapalooza 93 are definitely highlights. I’ve met a lot of cool bands along the way. I wish they would have a lot more of what Phil Anselmo Housecore Horror Fest did and blend both Horror and Metal.

          • I saw Tool with Failure and Flaming Lips in 94 (the day I graduated high school to be exact); one of my all time favorite shows.

            I was also at 93 Lollapalooza in Nashville. First time I found out about Rage and I remember Arrested Development and Alice In Chains tearing it up. I believe Tool was on a secondary stage as well.

  11. As far as Tenacious D goes, I don’t see why any metalhead would think they’re making fun of the genre. I think of the movie in the same vein as something like This is Spinal Tap or The Final Girls. They’re movies that clearly love the genre, are knowledgeable of it, and poke fun at it in a respectful way. DIO himself is in the movie for crying out loud! That’s about as much street cred as you could get with the metal crowd.

      • I agree about Tenacious D although I think that they can have their cake and eat it, too. It’s good when metal heads don’t take it all too seriously. I think Tenacious D is great because they tease the super seriousness of certain parts of metal.

    • Not to mention they won a grammy for a Dio cover off of the Dio tribute album.

      Also, my kiebalsa sausage has got to perform.

  12. With Life and the new Alien movie coming out, a space horror episode would be sweet. Everything from Alien to Xtro!

  13. Being 47…I’ve been a metal and horror fan from the beginning…I was always drawn to the dark and rebellious side of life at a very young age…What I’ve always loved about horror and metal is the endless diversity and forever evolving evolution of both genres in their respective arts…Just when you’ve thought you’ve heard and seen it all…Something new, unexpected, unique, and exciting assaults you’re senses and reminds you why you are proud to be a fan in the first place…

  14. This podcast inspired me to take out my old CD case and reminisce. I’ve been listening on the way to work. How strange it must sound when I pull into the elementary school where I work. I listened to a lot of Converge, Opeth, Black Dahlia, and Motorhead. Seems so long ago.

    I cannot wait to see The Devil’s Candy. The trailer makes me even more excited.

    I have been super busy with my job this week (parent-teacher conferences so I haven’t had much time for movie watching. Hope to catch up before it get’s too nice out and I feel bad staying in watching movies!

    • You’re so hardcore, projectile varmint! Love it.

      I hope you get a chance to see The Devil’s Candy in the theater, but I will say that it was extremely spooky to watch at home, alone, at night.

  15. Metal in Horror

    My love for horror actually acted as my introduction to Heavy Metal through a number of films. From the “hard rock” anthems of The Lost Boys to the twisted riffs in Demons, but probably with the most influential track in capturing my imagination; Dream Warriors by Dokken. It was an admittedly light introduction, but the seeds were lain when I saw a number of films in the 80s that featured soundtracks with some of the metal acts of the time. It always seemed a natural fit, especially when I eventually found Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, and the more theatrically minded bands. I was very much drawn to the Heavy Metal / horror cross-overs during my pre-and early- teens; Trick Or Treat, Zombie Nightmare, and Black Roses are some of the titles I remember watching on a pretty regular rotation. It was the first film that seems more burned into my brain than the others, besides the hilarious episode of MST3K in which Zombie Nightmare was featured.

    RE: Horror / Comedy

    What will it take for you guys to STOP equating horror with “scary”? Please? That’s not what horror is. And, quite frankly, it’s a little frustrating to hear “this is more comedy than horror” when a film features splattering blood, horrific gore, splitting heads, intestines, and other gruesome visuals- whether played for gallows humor or for hard impact, “horror” is in the gut reaction of disgust an audience is supposed to feel. That instinctual reaction of looking away, wincing, or just saying “Uuughgghgg, sick!” is all covered under the term “Horror”. That is why we differentiate HORROR from SUSPENSE, because fear isn’t the domain of horror alone… it’s that gut visceral reaction that belongs to horror. “DETHGASM!” is a Horror-comedy… filled gut wrenching scenes of gore and violence, the film is designed to utilize slapstick elements of timing to create uncomfortable laughter at its’ most horrific moments. It uses humor to create a dichotomy between the horror and comic delivery of the film. I can understand when a films comedy doesn’t work or when the horror elements fail to achieve a goal, but when the film is designed to incorporate both elements and does so to a great effect I find it difficult when supposed “horror” fans wear their frowny faces and talk about the lack of “scares”… NEWSFLASH: One of the funniest movies I’ve ever sat through was the Exorcist. That movie cracks me up… I don’t get scared at all. I don’t get scared at most horror, to be honest. I laugh at almost all of the films that fall under “horror”… I don’t tend to laugh at a lot of comedy films, though. But horror? CRACKS ME UP!

    Jay, I sincerely think you need to reevaluate your view on what you see as “comedy” in horror, the average “horror fan”, and recognize that these types of films are NOT geared toward comedy fans. In fact, they are specifically geared to Horror fans because the horror fans are the only ones who actually “get” the joke. There aren’t many fans of Adam Sandler rushing to check out Dead Alive, Woody Allen isn’t exactly the comparison brought out for Sam Raimi’s “Evil Dead 2”.

    Okay, now I’m going to make a recommendation and this one will be odd… because I don’t watch a lot of television. But there’s a Canadian series that aired two seasons before cancellation called “Todd and the Book of Absolute Evil”… it followed the adventures of Todd, an outcast teen with dreams of heavy metal guitar god stardom and his interaction with the fabled Book of Absolute Evil. Anyone who reads from the book will have their dreams come true, but with a twist and a price. Todd may be the only person capable of defeating the evil forces unleashed by the book. The series is absolutely insane and probably had a lot of influence in the script for DETHGASM! In that there is a cult, demons, a social outcast, and a group of friends who are forced to band together over time to fight off the forces of evil. It’s surprisingly gory for a Canadian Cable television series and features a couple of musical episodes.

    DEVIL’S CANDY: I’m going to rent it in the following weekend and give it a view. I’d seen the trailer and thought this was very much more of a collection of short horror stories with a wrap around, but hearing the podcast it sounds much different and could be an intense ride.

      • I watched all of this on a binge back when it was on Netflix! It was a lot of fun and Deathgasm definitely brought this series to mind. I was in a bit of trouble for a while with my husband for watching it all without him. It’s too bad it was canceled, but often the more creative shows are.

      • I heard about this one on Kevin Smith’s podcast back when they were filming this, but never watched it. I didn’t even know it was available in the United States. Wish I hadn’t missed it on Netflix. I’ll have to track it down. Looks fun.

        • It’s amazing and worth buying the whole series. In the first episode, the main character uses the book to become the worlds best guitarist. He has a guitar battle with one of the cool kids and rips so much that the cool kid bleeds out his ass.

  16. Great episode.

    Jason Lives was definitely a huge influence on where my music tastes lie today. After I saw that film at the age of 10 I immediately ran out and picked up Alice Cooper’s ‘Constrictor’ and became an instant fan (I’m going to my 25th Cooper show in May). I immediately went back to the record store (miss those) and dove into his back catalog (‘Billion Dollar Babies,’ ‘Welcome to My Nightmare,’ ‘Goes to Hell,’ etc.). This led me down a fun hard rock/metal rabbit hole. Dio, Iron Maiden, and Cooper still today remain my big three. I also listen to a lot more Dokken than I should probably admit to (“Prisoner” is my happy place).

    I don’t get the time to listen to as much new hard rock/metal as I would like and most of my tastes tend to lean more toward mainstream. I listen to Ghost, Orange Goblin, Pretty Reckless, Bullet for My Valentine, and Halestom to name a few. I have a five year old daughter and I write for the You Tube channel, ‘Music Video Sins,’ so the majority of my music listening revolves around Top 40.

    I got to check out ‘Devil’s Candy’ and liked it quite a bit. Kiara Glasco gives one of the most interesting child performances I have seen in a long time; I look forward to seeing where her career goes. And Pruitt Taylor Vince is just always awesome in a creepy role like this. I will definitely be checking this movie out again in the near future and expect it to be on my Top Ten list for horror at the end of the year. 8/10.

  17. SPOILER ALERT!!!!!

    I rented Devil’s Candy last njght. I really enjoyed the movie. The acting was great, the relationship between Jesse and Kiara felt very real. To me, Ray was such a tragic character, but was also terrifying.

    I had some problems with the film, that I hope can be corrected through the release of a full version of the movie. I thought Astrid was severely underdeveloped, to the point I didn’t understand why Jesse and Astrid were even married. And who would go to work the day after their child was abducted?

    The whole Leonard angle was also underdeveloped, in my opinion. Naming the studio Belial was a little too on the nose for me.

    I really wanted more of a dark descent for Jesse. I was looking more for something like it Ronnie Defoe and George Lutz were in Amityville at the same time. Jesse lost time and created disturbing paintings that showed his connection to Ray and the entity, but he was clearly a protagonist, and that made the movie less scary for me.

    I also didn’t like the abrupt ending. I wanted more resolution after the movie’s climax.

    I know I listed a bunch of issues I had with the movie, but the good car outweighed the bad. I recommend seeing the movie on the father/daughter relationship alone, let alone the rest of the acting and the creepy tone. I give this movie a 7.5 out of 10, and say to see it in the theatre if you can.

  18. Just to qualify my somewhat pretentious comments regarding my feelings that metal tends to work better diegetically in horror movies; I hope it didn’t come off that I was disparaging the use of metal in horror in general. I love movies like Dream Warriors, Demons and Return of the Living Dead (though I guess that’s more of a punk soundtrack?) where the use of heavy music truly compliments the fun comic-book tone of the film. Metal when used in the correct tonal context is awesome. I was thinking more of that late 90’s early 2000’s trend of using really bad, generic Nu-Metal sounding distorted guitars in horror film scores in an attempt to sound edgy and dark. That kind of thing can work if it’s calculated to suit the tone and done in an intelligent way, but when mishandled I feel like it can ruin the tension and atmosphere of a scene that might have been better suited to a more subdued score.

    And I maintain that Argento’s usage of music can sometimes be questionable. Something like Demons is a perfect film to feature heavy metal songs (I’m aware he was only a producer on this film). It’s over-the-top, theatrical, tongue-in-cheek, gross and fun. But something like Phenomena is a far more serious and dark affair and the scene I mentioned in my email is shot as though to be nocturnally eerie and quiet. So the inclusion of a full length Iron Maiden song seems like a tonal miscalculation. That’s something you save for a splattery, action packed, blood drenched, hyperbolic moment not a slow, brooding mood-piece. Because Iron Maiden don’t really sound scary or eerie, they sound fun and theatrical.

  19. I have to admit my tastes in metal is very wide but I could never get into the extreme side of it…death, doom, black, grindcore…etc. I appreciate the heaviness and technical side of it but I could never get into the vocal style…When I can’t understand the lyrics it kinda takes me out it….

    • Ahhhh … nice pull. This is the first film anyone has pointed out that I think we really missed. I don’t think of Knights as a horror movie, so that’s probably why it slipped my mind. Great pull, Professor Headbutt. This should go on the list, Mark!

  20. I watched the trailer for The Devil’s Candy and seeing Pruitt Taylor Vince immediately reminded me of the X-Files episode he was in titled “Unruhe”. In the episode he is plagued by visions of demons he refers to as howlers, and he attempts to perform frontal lobe lobotomies on women he thinks are howler plagued. It’s one of the more disturbing episodes in my opinion. Apologies if someone already mentioned this, I haven’t read through all of the comments yet.

      • You totally should, Josh. Such a great show that seems weirdly underrated by horror fans. I think people are quick to associate it all with UFO/conspiracy stuff (which is still great) but there are so many amazing monster-of-the-week episodes. And Allyson’s right, “Unruhe” sticks out in my mind as a particularly disturbing one.

    • When I was listening to this episode, someone mentioned that the villian had shaky eyes, and I immediately knew the actor they were talking about because of that episode of the X-Files even though I hadn’t seen the trailer and didn’t know he was in the movie. He is so good playing this type of character!

  21. Hey all. Great episode.I love hearing movies from the perspective of the director so this was especially enjoyable for me. I recently saw both Deathgasm and Devil’s Candy and would love to give my take on these two films. To start, I absolutely loved Deathgasm. Yes, it is not a hardcore horror film for all people but it was fun to watch that I didn’t care. It found it a mash up of Shaun of the Dead and Dead Alive, with a little bit of a Kiss video mixed in. Some fantastic practical effects and the comedic elements had me in tears (attacking with anal beads, lol). It was what The Boy Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse tried to be but couldn’t quite get to. The music was great and the fact that it took place in New Zealand added more to the story for me. It made it seem like it took occurred in some distant place which added to the mystery. Overall I gave it an 8/10 and definite own.

    Last night I saw Devil’s Candy. I will start off by saying, like Jay, I am rarely a fan of the supernatural, slow burn type of horror but I went in open minded really wanting to like this film. I could tell it was well written and there was care given to character development. The film also had a “gritty” element to it that I liked.
    *****THE DEVIL’S CANDY SPOILERS*****
    The ending was awesome and enjoyed the fire scene (almost an homage to the multiple Roger Corman fire endings). Ultimately, though I found that I did not care about the characters and that at times the film did not seem to know where it was going. There were also some gaps in the story that I had to try and figure out on my own (and being tired when I watched I did not care to think too hard,lol). While I found the character Ray Smilie odd, I thought he could have been made even more disturbing than he was. Perhaps more action or killing done by him would have been more to my liking.
    *****END SPOILERS*****
    As a whole I am glad I watched and I really enjoy the director and his style (I quite enjoyed The Loved Ones) I ultimately did not care what happened to the characters. I gave it 6/10. Perhaps I am too harsh?

    I am a huge heavy metal fan and love the theme of this episode. When I first saw the topic I immediately thought of King Diamond, Alice Cooper, then Iron Maiden and Eddie and more recently Ghost and love the link between the musical genre and Horror movies. While not heavy metal per say, I also thought of Goblin and the creepy imagery they helped project with their music. Perhaps there will be more heavy metal themed horrors in the not too distant future…

  22. My favourite fact about metal is that Tom Araya from Slayer is a born again christian.
    I cannot get behind Burzum. Varg Vikernes from Burzum is an anti-semitic white supremacist.

  23. Anyone else watch Garfield and Friends?
    Wade – “During my last operation the doctor left a sponge in me. It doesn’t hurt but boy do I get thirsty!”

  24. I finally got to see The Devil’s Candy and I have to say that all of the hype surrounding the movie is 100% warranted. I’m a huge metal fan and to have a movie that wears the metal mantle proudly and uses the genre as effectively as it was is something that I’ve been longing for forever. That movie is finally here and it rocks \m/

    ****-SPOILERS BELOW****

    One of my favorite aspects was the incorporation of the music and imagery to create an atmosphere with a sense of dread so heavy that I could feel it physically tiring me out. The music in particular worked to great effect. Sun O)))’s impossibly heavy distortion combined with growling vocals that evoked demons reaching out from the other side provided very intense and nightmarish sequences that stay with you long after the credits roll. The imagery was a bit on the nose, but it was used so expertly that it ended up creating very elegant and iconic imagery.

    I also loved how the devil was elevated to much more than just a character. It wasn’t personified, it wasn’t given a shape, it wasn’t ever really present in a physical way. But the idea of it, the thought of it, the presence of it was there and it made it feel a lot more real, dark, and lethal than anything a rubber suit or CGI could ever hope to accomplish. Kudos to them for not showing us the devil, but telling us enough about it to let us consume ourselves in our own thoughts.

    I’m still trying to come up with a satisfactory answer as to what role metal played in the movie, but it was left open ended enough to make me feel ok about not having an answer yet.

    One thing that bothered me a little was the Belial art gallery angle. Even though it seemed cliché, I was still curious to see where they were going to take it, but nothing really panned out. Not that the movie needed it, but I was left wanting to know more about the gallery owner.

    There are so many more aspects that I loved about the film. The acting was excellent. I think this is one of Ethan Embry’s best roles and Kiara Glasco was incredible. Pruitt Taylor Vince was great as always. He’s such an underrated actor. I had no idea who Shiri Appleby was before this, but I loved her even if she was underused. I loved Sean Byrne’s vision for this. I think he showed a lot of respect and understanding of both genres, metal and horror, and he married them perfectly. I can’t wait to see what he does next.

    ****END OF SPOILERS****

    The Devil’s candy is not only an excellent example of what the genre has been missing out by not incorporating metal with the respect and knowledge it deserves, but it’s also just a great horror movie. I think this is a modern day classic that in time will become a timeless classic. It’s that good. I’m giving this a 10/10 and I can’t see anything topping it as my #1 spot.

    • I like what you’re saying about the metal aspects of this film, Juan. To me, Metal seemed to permeate into the fabric of this film and even into the script but it’s not necessarily what’s driving the plot.

      • Yeah, I don’t think it drives the plot, but it’s incorporated into the story.

        Two other things I forgot to mention in the above comment:

        1) My favorite scene happens at the very beginning when Pruitt Taylor’s character is playing the guitar and he gets told that it’s too loud to which he says something like “when I play loud, I can’t hear the voices”. This blew my mind because it goes against the image metal has, which is that it helps bring the evil. But here they’re trying to use it to stop it and I thought that was so cool and well done.

        2) I love the setting and although Texas was never the intended backdrop for the movie, it really worked because Texas is one of the big metal states or at least it used to be.

  25. I know that a lot of you were very fond of the human portrayal of metalhead Jesse in The Devil’s Candy. While not technically horror and a bit cheesy on its heavy handedness, this is another pretty good look at just another normal person that happens to like (and play) metal.

  26. Hey, I started watching horror a couple years ago and I don’t really know where to start after you’ve seen all the basics. I’ve seen halloween and all that jazz, but after that stuff I’m going to need some help. I’m only eleven, but my parents are pretty lenient so as long as there is nothing to obscene (Nothing worse than exorcist or Evil Dead) I can watch it.
    I have also never seen any zombie movies or Heavy metal horror. Where do you suggest I start.
    I do a horror movie club every month with my buddies and they have seen almost nothing.

    It’s a lot of questions but thx.

    • Gore-or,

      The very first thing that I’d do is listen to our “Horror For Little Monsters” episode ( right here: http://bit.ly/2cjoCjC ) where we talk about hundreds of movies to get kids into horror. Some of them are for little LITTLE kids, but we do get around to teenagers at some point.

      It sounds like you’re pretty advanced! I don’t think I’d ever recommend The Exorcist to an 11 Year Old, myself. But keeping that in mind, our teenager recommendations should be great for you.

      When I was your age, I really liked horror that mixed in adventure comedy. My very favorites were films like TREMORS (1990) and THE LOST BOYS (1987). Those are so much fun. Just be aware that those films have a whole lot of swearing, so if your parents aren’t cool with that…beware!

      Again, I wouldn’t necessarily recommend HALLOWEEN (1978) to an 11 year old, but if you liked it, we did several long episodes on ’80s slashers with hundreds of recommendations that you can easily find on iTunes or our site. If you want something more modern but in that style, maybe try SCREAM (1997). It’s one of my all-time favorites.

      Zombie movies are great for younger viewers, in my opinion. You have to first judge if your friends are cooler with watching older films or if they only like modern-looking films. If they don’t mind the look of films from the 70s or 80s, I’d just start with the classics and watch DAWN OF THE DEAD (1978) and DAY OF THE DEAD (1985), with them.

      If they’d prefer films with a newer look and feel, I’d skip those classics and try DAWN OF THE DEAD (2004) instead of the original. Comedy, again, is a great way into the genre for newer horror viewers and I’d recommend showing them ZOMBIELAND (2009) and SHAUN OF THE DEAD (2004) before jumping into more ethereal stuff like 28 DAYS LATER (2002) or much harder stuff like 28 WEEKS LATER (2007).

      Your friends might also enjoy M. Night Shyamalan movies and the PARANORMAL ACTIVITY movies before jumping into the harder stuff. There is a lot of great PG-13 horror out there, these days.

      Again, I’d just recommend regularly listening to our podcast and you’ll get a sense of what the movies are like and if they are something you’d enjoy. Look at the sidebar here on HorrorMoviePodcast.com (it would be better to do on a computer bc our dumb site isn’t phone optimized) and look at the links to our special “themed” episodes. You can pick very specific episodes like “Infected” movies or “Feral Vampire” movies and get lots of recommendations in those subgenres of things you might really like. We get into a lot of rare and lesser-seen stuff in those episodes, not just the basics.

      Lastly, check out our Top 10 Lists of all time favorite horror ( here: http://bit.ly/2aesFLM ) and our lists that we do at the end of each year ( Best of 2016: http://bit.ly/2iYV9Rf Best of 2015: http://bit.ly/1JhDi0b ) to recommend what we think they best new movies are. Our listeners also chime-in and give their recommendations in the comments, so look at those. Maybe some of them will have ideas about this topic too.

      Good luck! Let us know how it goes!

      • Thanks for the feedback! The PG-13 stuff would be greats for the horror movie club as most of my friends can’t watch R rated stuff.

    • A horror movie watching club with your buddies sounds awesome! It’s good to have some friends that will watch horror movies because it can be lonely being a horror fan. When I was your age I was very into the old monster movies. Although they’re classics, a lot of them are in black and white and are cheesy by today’s standards so your friends might have trouble appreciating them. You may have seen these but here are some suggestions if you’re interested…

      Frankenstein (1931), Dracula (1931), The Invisible Man (1933), The Wolfman (1941), The Thing from Another World (1951), Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954), The Blob (1958), House on Haunted Hill (1959), Psycho (1960), Night of the Living Dead (1968), Jaws (1975), Poltergeist (1982), Fright Night (1985), Beetlejuice (1988), The Leprechaun (1993), The Frighteners (1996), Sleepy Hollow (1999), Drag Me to Hell (2009), The Woman in Black (2012), Dark Skies (2013)

    • A couple of great reference books I would reccomend are Pumpkin Cinema by Nathan Tolle and Horror Movie a Day by Brian Collins. If you are an Amazon Prime member I’m pretty sure you can check out the Collins’ book from the Kindle Lending Library.

      These books should give you a whole lot of titles worth checking out.

    • Welcome, Gore-or! Glad you found the podcast, and your Horror Movie Club is a great idea!

      I don’t really have any newer titles to add to the lists provided by Wolfman Josh and Dark Mark (and Jonathan’s book suggestions are spot-on! You’ll definitely want to check them out), but here is a partial list of the horror films I had seen by the time I was around your age.

      1. JAWS (Actually, I saw JAWS 2 first, but stick with the original film, which is obviously the best!)
      2. POLTERGEIST
      3. THE SHINING
      4. Many of the Universal Monster movies (FRANKENSTEIN is my favorite, but THE INVISIBLE MAN is also fun)
      5. THE BIRDS

      Those are the ones that I would call “Age appropriate”. I also watched quite a few that I would NOT put in that category (one of the benefits of having cable TV in the days before the parental control options).

      Enjoy, and thanks for listening!

  27. Holy shit I am so excited to finish this episode as I am a huge metalhead. (Mostly doom metal though).

    Deathgasm was great. I am holding off on Devil’s Candy review though, because I am going to watch it this week. Took a look at the soundtrack though, and if the movie’s half as good as the lineup – I’m on board.

    I loved Gregamortis’s call-in. Some of those made me laugh, thinking about them (Shock ‘Em Dead’s Spastic Colon performance made me guffaw the first time I saw it).
    I was going to mention – even though Naked City is technically an amalgamation band that covered multiple genres, putting “Bonehead” at the beginning of Funny Games really set the dial to the movie’s doomed ending. That’s one of my favorite metal intros/outros ever.

    Anyway, great interviews Josh, Jay and Dave.

    • Thanks for the feedback, Bonnie. Can’t wait to hear what you thought of The Devil’s Candy!

      So, did you listen to the Devil’s Candy interviews, just not the review?

      • Josh, I was about half way through the episode with the interviews. I stopped as you guys got near the Devil’s Candy review.

  28. My first horror movies are
    1) Poltergeist
    2) Krampus
    3) Babadook (This one messed me up, I was NINE!!)
    4) Some Hitchcock and similar stuff
    5) The Shining

    what are your guys’?

    (I laughed while reading misery too)

  29. Hey guys,
    I just want to say that I’m a big fan of HMP. I have been listening to this podcast since January, and you guys really helped rekindle my love for horror movies. I listen to your podcast while stuck in Pittsburgh traffic on my way home from school, and I’ve really become addicted. Wolfman Josh and Dr. Shock, don’t worry, I listen to Universal Monsters Cast as well, and it rocks! Jay, I wish you the best in a great recovery. Long live HORROR MOVIE PODCAST!

  30. Can anyone please tell me what song they were listening to in the car towards the beginning of the film, when the mother complained about the music and they suggested Metallica instead??

  31. so I watched the Devil’s Candy. by the way, i’m a huge fan of the Loved Ones so had high expectations. i’ve never pulled for characters in a movie so hard before in my life. it actually made me nervous and scream at the screen. quite the film tonal to metal.

  32. I missed the train on commenting on this episode, but wanted to quickly say I thought it was great. It made the shortlist of episodes I saved on my device for future listens. My knowledge on the topic is limited, but I thought everyone involved did a great job of bringing their perspective to the table. Not playing favorites here, but I thought the emails from Juan and David were definite highlights. And, it was said earlier by others, but Josh knocked it out of the park with his interviews of Embry and Byrne. Those were absolutely stellar; it’s obvious that Josh has experience doing this as a documentary filmmaker.

    And The Devil’s Candy fucking rocked.

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