Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 038: The Woman in Black 2: Angel of Death (2015) and The Top 10 Horror Movies of 2014

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Happy new year! It’s 2015 on HORROR MOVIE PODCAST, where we’re Dead Serious About Horror Movies… Sincerest apologies for our delayed release, but we think it will be 3 hours and 20 minutes that are worth your wait! In Episode 038, we bring you our TOP 10 HORROR MOVIES OF 2014 and a Feature Review of the first 2015 film to hit theaters: The Woman in Black 2: Angel of Death. We have a visit from Kyle “Dr. Walking Dead” Bishop to help us review Juan of the Dead (2011) and special guest One Sick Puppy from the Dead as Hell Horror Podcast! Join us!


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I. Introduction
— Welcome Dr. Walking Dead Kyle Bishop
— Voicemail from Dr. Shock

[ 0:04:46 ] II. Feature Review: JUAN OF THE DEAD (2011)
Jay of the Dead = 6 ( Rental )
Wolfman Josh = 7 ( Rental )
Dr. Walking Dead = 7 ( Rental )

[ 0:44:39 ] III. Mini Review: The Bridge (2006)
Jay of the Dead = 9 ( Buy it! )

[ 1:01:42 ] IV. Wolfman’s Got Nards: The Exorcist (1973)
Wolfman Josh = 8 ( Strong Rental )

[ 1:19:42 ] V. Feature Review: THE WOMAN IN BLACK 2: ANGEL OF DEATH (2015) with special guest One Sick Puppy
Jay of the Dead = 2 ( Avoid )
One Sick Puppy = 3 ( Avoid )

[ 1:58:17 ] VI. TOP 10 HORROR MOVIES OF 2014 (of those that we saw…)
— Jay of the Dead and Wolfman Josh preface their Top 10 of 2014


1. The Babadook
2. The Town That Dreaded Sundown
3. Dead Snow 2: Red vs. Dead
4. Animal
5. The Dead 2
6. Ben Ketai’s Beneath
7. The Sacrament
8. Exists
9. Tusk
10. Killer Mermaid


1. Tusk
2. Exists
3. The Babadook
4. Only Lovers Left Alive
5. Housebound
6. As Above, So Below
7. Godzilla
8. Deliver Us From Evil
9. Under the Skin
10. Dead Snow 2: Red vs. Dead



Jay of the Dead’s Honorable Mentions:
Doc of the Dead
Lizzie Borden Took an Ax
Nurse 3D
Open Grave
Stage Fright
The Pyramid
Willow Creek

Wolfman Josh’s Honorable Mentions:
Cabin Fever 3
Life After Beth
Open Grave
Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones
Stage Fright
The Sacrament
The Town That Dreaded Sundown


Jay of the Dead’s Biggest Disappointments:
As Above, So Below
Larry Fessenden’s Beneath
Blood Glacier
Deliver Us From Evil


Jay of the Dead’s Dishonorable Mentions of 2014:
Devil’s Due
Fields of the Dead
Haunting of the Innocent
I, Frankenstein
Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones
The Quiet Ones
Voodoo Possession
Jay’s Very Worst Horror Movie of 2014:

Wolfman Josh’s Dishonorable Mentions of 2014:
The Pyramid
Wolfman’s Very Worst Horror Movie of 2014:
Willow Creek

[ 3:04:51 ] X. 2014 — Year in Review for 2014

[ 3:14:25 ] XI. Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending

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Links for One Sick Puppy:
One Sick Puppy’s Dead as Hell Horror Podcast
Follow One Sick Puppy on Twitter: @DeadAsHellHP
One Sick Puppy On Facebook
On Stitcher
On iTunes
One Sick Puppy’s crew: The Tangent Bound Network.com

Dr. Walking Dead on Twitter: @DrWalkingDead
Dr. Walking Dead’s books American Zombie Gothic and Triumph of The Walking Dead

Wolfman Josh’s links:
Wolfman Josh on Twitter: @IcarusArts
Wolfman Josh covers new releases in theaters on: Movie Podcast Weekly
Wolfman covers movies streaming online on: Movie Stream Cast

Dr. Shock’s links:
Dr. Shock’s daily movie review Web site: DVD Infatuation.com
Dr. Shock on Twitter: @DVDinfatuation
Dr. Shock’s other horror podcast: Land of the Creeps

Jay of the Dead’s links:
Jay of the Dead and Horror Movie Podcast Official Twitter: @HorrorMovieCast
Jay of the Dead covers new releases in theaters on: Movie Podcast Weekly
And if you’d like to e-mail Jay of the Dead with a good Beastly Freaks recommendation: BeastlyFreaks@gmail.com

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Jay of the Dead

131 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 038: The Woman in Black 2: Angel of Death (2015) and The Top 10 Horror Movies of 2014

    • We know you well enough to know that if an episode’s notably late then there’ll be a bloody good reason for it Jay. So, although we’ve been like junkies deprived of a fix for the last 5 days and most of us have no fingernails left, we understand and are no less grateful that this podcast exists in the first place. And we still love you Jay!

      Hohoh…..er, I mean…time to get a beer and listen to some HMP!

  1. David is exactly right…HMP is my drug of choice and I find it silly I started to feel out of sorts when I had to wait…I kept checking itunes…nothing… but I checked the website and low and behold…salvation…a wave of calmness washed over me….now as I’m typing this the sweet sounds of HMP is flowing through my brain…everything before is forgotten…I’m in the now and its pure bliss!!!

    • We’re a bunch of HMP addicts!

      When an Episode’s late I always like to think that the silver lining is that we don’t have as long to wait between podcasts.

  2. Ha! It just showed upped on itunes…beat them to the punch…anyways I got my Horror Cinema book a few days ago and its amazing…love it….Thanks guys…I decided to wait and start reading it after my sugery cause I’m gonna be in the hospital for 3 days and I’m gonna be off work for at least 8 weeks…so I’m gonna have a ton of time on my hands…Hey Jay could you put an episode out everyday…no that WOULD kill you…just feel so happy now…I’ve rambled enough…love you all!!!

    • Glad the book arrived ok, Shannon. It’s pretty sweet, isn’t it? Holly hasn’t claimed hers yet. I’ll give her a couple more episodes, then I may draw again if we don’t hear from her.

      Juan! I found your HIGH AND LOW DVD from the MPW contest, by the way. I will ship that this week as well.

  3. Holy shit!!! It just dawned on me my sergury is on… Febuary 13….Friday the 13th…This so does not bode well for me…I was already kinda freaked out…’ki ki ki, ma, ma, ma…

  4. Love your Bolo Yeung comment, Jay! I’m a huge fan of his. He’s easily my favorite villain from the 80s. He only has his physicality going for him, but that alone brings so much to the films that he’s in like Blood Sport for instance.

  5. I have this question for hosts and listeners…If you had to get killed by any horror villian…who and how and why…would you like to exit this life…the more details the better…maybe we could make a movie out of it…if not it could be fun as shit!!!

  6. I love your new segment, Josh, even with such a low score given to one of the greatest horor (or non-horror) movies of all time! Only an 8? Ouch! Knowing how you approach your scores though, I’m confident that that number will only increase as time passes. Anyway, I’m looking forward to the full-on review.

    So if the wolf became a man, does that make you a Manwolf? Haha called it! 😉

    • Honestly, it’s hard to process a film like that on first viewing and (I thought) I had to record the segment almost immediately after I saw the movie because (I thought) Jay was posting the podcast that night. It would have been a lot more fun to debate the film with Doc and Jay, who are far more familiar with it. We will definitely be revisiting, though. What a rich text.

    • I second Juan’s comments. Excellent new segment, Josh.

      And, congratulations for finally watching The Exorcist. It’s a great film. Scary (in my top 5 scariest), but I definitely don’t think it’s the scariest of all-time.

      [Here are my top 5 scariest films of all-time](http://www.imdb.com/list/ls058118976/)

      Looking forward to more in depth discussion on The Exorcist now that you’ve finally seen it.

  7. So I wanted to contribute my own Top Ten Horror Films of 2014 list but it turns out I’ve only seen about 5 or 6 of this past years offerings. That’s pretty shameful I guess but as I’ve mentioned before I generally get more satisfaction digging up obscure movies from the past than watching most contemporary fare and I don’t tend to go out of my way to watch a movie unless I’m really intrigued by it.

    That being the case I decided to put together a list simply of the best horror movies I watched this year that I’d never seen before. Some of these films are new ones but most of them are simply new to me. For me 2014 was the year I really fell in love with Japanese horror and I’m not so much talking about the modern J-horrors more familiar to western audiences but moreso the Japanese horror cinema of the 50’s and 60’s. Some of those movies are incredibly beautiful, some traditional and restrained and others totally wacky and insane, so you are forewarned that my list may be a little heavy on genre offerings from the far east. Anyway here goes:

    The top ten horror films that I saw for the first time in 2014:

    1. Kwaidan (1964)
    2. The Orphanage (2007)
    3. The Babadook (2014)
    4. Stake Land (2010)
    5. Matango: Attack of the Mushroom People (1963)
    6. The Town That Dreaded Sundown (2014)
    7. The Hills Have Eyes (2006)
    8. Them! (1954)
    9. Yokai Monsters: 100 Monsters (1968)
    10. Fragile (2005)

    And here’s a few more movies that I watched for the first time in 2014 that are less strictly horror but definitely worth checking out for the more open minded horror fans:

    The Imposter (2012)
    The Face of Another (1966)
    Godzilla (2014)
    Cure (1997)

    • Also, I just want to point out that I am aware how useless this list is to anyone wanting an overview of movies from a certain year. It’s more just something I did to entertain my lame self.

    • David,

      Thanks for sharing your list, man. I’m always curious about your picks. I’ve only seen half of the movies on your list and I really like four of them. There is one, however, that I see on many people’s lists and it drives me a little nuts because I don’t think it’s that great. But that’s just my personal opinion, so don’t take my comments to heart. Anyway, I’m talking about The Orphanage. I think it’s a rock solid film, but it’s nothing special and it doesn’t bring anything new to the table—at least, not enough for people to rave about it. There is a far superior film that was made 10 years prior, The Devil’s Backbone, that I don’t hear people talking about as often and perhaps that’s the real reason why I hate The Orphanage a little. I just don’t think that The Orphanage is deserving of all the praise it gets. It’s not a bad movie, I just feel it gets all the credit for something that was done far better by at least one other movie, but I digress.

      After much deliberation, I’d like to share my Top Horror Movies of the Year. I only watched 43 horror movies this year, so it’s probably an incomplete list but judging from all the crap that I watched, I’m confident that there’s not much great stuff out there that I missed anyway.

      1. The Babadook
      2. Coherence (By far my most controversial pick, but there’s no denying it’s creepy tone)
      3. Exists
      4. Cheap Thrills/13 Sins (It’s a tie! Both are controverisal picks because they’re more of a thriller, but the horror element is present, so I count them.)
      5. Stage Fright
      6. Dead Snow 2: Red vs. Dead
      7. The Sacrament
      8. Hatchet III
      9. Oculus
      10. Wolf Creek 2

      Honorary Horror Mentions
      1. Tusk
      2. In Fear
      3. As Above So Below
      4. Paranormal Activity The Marked Ones
      5. Blood Glacier
      6. Life After Beth
      7. Cabin Fever: Patient Zero
      8. Open Grave

      Worst Horror Movies of the Year (the list can go on forever, but these in particular were unbearable)

      1. See No Evil 2
      2. Torment
      4. Patrick
      3. The Quiet Ones
      5. Almost Human

      • Juan, I love that you’ve gone with some more on-the-fringes picks a few places in your lists. Those kind of movies are the kind of reason I’m so vocal about not being too restrictive when it comes to the definition of horror. They may very well have been excised from inclusion on most horror lists and/or horror podcasts but they are nonetheless intriguing to me and I’m glad you brought them up lest I may not have learned about them. Especially “Coherence” which I’m eager to see. Point being I’d rather find out about movies with some horror elements which are actually good than learn only about absolute horror films which are just mediocre or worse.

        Now with regards to “The Orphanage”, I adore that movie. I love the understated atmosphere throughout and the way it just taps into my brain like a truly vivid nightmare. And those last 20 minutes or so hit me so hard on a tragic emotional level that it makes me shudder.

        That said though, I have to admit that I actually have yet to see “The Devils Backbone”. It’s one that I’ve been meaning to get to for the longest time but it just keeps getting away from me. I can relate to how you feel though. I hate to once again fall into the roll of insane village heretic but what you said about “The Orphange” is pretty much exactly how I feel about “Scream”. I’ve established in the past that I do actually enjoy “Scream” much more than I initially thought; it’s a very well made and entertaining movie, but it’s so highly revered as this ground breaking masterpiece of post-modernism and I just don’t think it really lives up to all that. I mean movies like “Popcorn” and “Return to Horror High” were doing the whole meta-slasher thing way earlier. “Scream” just polished it and packaged it so as to be more digestible for a mainstream audience. Even in this very episode Josh couldn’t help but compare “The Town That Dreaded Sundown” to “Scream” and personally I preferred the former. “Scream” is so overt, obnoxious and on the nose about it’s genre references that it just feels unnatural to me. “The Town That Dreaded Sundown” felt more straightforward and less ostentatious and just appealed to me more. “Scream” is certainly cleverly written and very well made and indeed influential to the modern slasher (though I don’t know that that’s necessarily anything to be proud of) but to me it’s really not the hugely original, game-changer that people revere it as.

        Let the tar-and-feathering commence!

        • Haha I’d love to retort, David, but then Josh will just say that we suck for getting into it without his involvement. What say you? Wait for him or go at it?

          • It’s too late to retort now, David. Josh has spoken :(

            But I see where you’re coming from… sort of. I have yet to see Popcorn and Return to Horror High, so that pretty much prevents me from arguing against or for them. I will say this though, Wes Craven knows his horror and love him or hate him, he’s one of the more important figures in horror cinema and for him to have picked that script at the time he did says a lot already. I mean this is only two years after Pulp Fiction! Scream couldn’t have come at a better time. As far as your qualms with the movie, your taste in horror is very specific—and forgive me for presuming to know you, but that’s just what I gathered reading your comments. Perhaps the reason why Scream rubs you the wrong way is because it’s not like the other slashers that you adore. But that was the point, Scream was to be unlike any of the other slashers out there. Now, you can’t blame Scream for helping spawn the modern slasher. Scream led the way. That the others weren’t able to reach the bar it set is not its fault. Anyway, I’ll give Popcorn, Return to Horror High, and The Town That Dreaded Sundown a shot and I’ll report back with my findings.

            By the way, there’s a movie that I’d like to recommend that I should have listed somewhere on my top ten, but I completely forgot about it. It’s a Dutch film and it’s insane. The imagery depicted is pretty incredible and quite scary. It was my number eight pick over at MPW. I think you’d like this one, man, especially if you start reading into the lore behind it. But don’t read anything about it until after you watch it. It’s a 9.5 for me.

          • Sorry to disappoint. Tell you what, we will definitely be covering SCREAM this year at some point, David. You tell me here why SCREAM is so lame and I will save it (as well as Juan’s response) and read it and respond to it when we record the show.

          • Come on Josh, I never said that “Scream” was lame. In fact I like it. My rating has moved up to a 7/10 since I last watched it and I love the mystery/suspense elements of the film. My main point is just that I think it’s success is often incorrectly attributed to it being this totally fresh new take on horror when in actual fact quite a few more obscure movies had done the whole meta/self-aware/playing-with-conventions thing before it and I think a more accurate reason for “Scream” being so accepted by critics and general audiences is the fact that it’s much more palatable to those viewers than most horror fare. It had a big budget, big name cast and very polished mainstream appeal. I’m not saying it sucks, objectively it’s probably as good as some of the best of the earlier Slashers that I prefer and better than most. I do find the constant in-your-face references to horror movie conventions to be a little grating and distracting and to an extent condescending but that’s more just personal preference than anything. I just think the film is a tiny bit overrated is all.

    • David – The original The Town That Dreaded Sundown is on my list of shame… I’ve always had interest in seeing it, just not enough to actually get around to seeing it. I have had interest in seeing the 2014 remake/sequel since hearing HMP’s review of the film, but have been holding off because I still need to get through the original. You including it on your top 10 list – as one of only two 2014 films, no less – has certainly opened my eyes, though. That may be the final nudge I needed to get to work on the original so that I can watch the 2014 version.

  8. i watched Housebound with my wife and at the end she said that was an awsome movie and for The Dead 2…Jay you arent wrong…we both liked both movies and thought the second was much better…I’m lucky my wife is the female version of me!!!

    • Consider yourself very lucky, Shannon. My wife has pretty much the same taste as me in movies (as you can probably glean from Movie Stream Cast), but completely opposite tastes when it comes to TV shows and scares.

  9. Jay and Josh….i think we are brothers of different mothers…both your lists combined was my list…omfg….My bluray just came in the mail yesterday…Tusk Forever!!!

  10. It is always a pleasure to hear Dr. Walking Dead on the show, so thanks for that. I think I am really going to enjoy the Wolfman’s new segment, but I have to ask if “In the Mouth of Madness” will be covered as part of it? I know it has been a movie he has been avoiding. I found it a weird mix of creepy and funny, but I may be kind of twisted.
    On a another note, I somehow thought you guys were covering “New Year’s Evil” for this episode as well and I watched it on Netflix right after New Years. Since it wasn’t part of the show, I thought I should tell the listeners to not waste their time with it. I am a huge fan of late 70’s – early 80’s slashers and I am pretty forgiving, but this movie is a snore-fest. I figured it wouldn’t be good, but it I didn’t anticipate how boring it would be. The lead is an aging “punk” DJ (who seems to have let Twisted Sister do her makeup) and she gets harassing phone calls from a killer while she hosts a lackluster NYE party. The party attendees looked about as bored and zombified as I felt while watching this. I think the original “My Bloody Valentine” proved that it was still possible to make an entertaining holiday themed horror movie post “Halloween” and “Friday the 13th”. This one just fell flat.
    Oh, and Jay, watch out for “the Mother” in your apple cider vinegar. Haven’t you seen “The Stuff”?

    • Yes! I knew there was another movie that Josh had mentioned as something he was afraid to watch and I was wracking my brains trying to remember what it was.

      It was “In the Mouth of Madness” as you mentioned Allyson! I love that movie and I’d be really curious to hear Josh cover it in his new segment. The bit with the guy on the bike still gives me the creeps.

      And I’m pretty sure “New Years Evil” was on the roster for this episode but maybe Doc was going to cover it so it was excised due to his absence? Or maybe, if it’s as dull as you say, it just slipped everyone’s mind.

      I’ve got to say the aging “Twisted Sister” punk DJ kind of has me intrigued though. I love those late 70’s and 80’s horror movies with that grotty punk vibe.

      • I love “In the Mouth of Madness” as well and really hope it gets covered here. If you do watch “New Year’s Evil” I recommend finding a way to see it for free. It had potential, but it just couldn’t hold my attention. The crazy makeup and hair is one of the few highlights.

        • NEW YEARS EVIL is steaming free on Netflix (at least in the US). We were supposed to cover it, but I’m the only one who got around to covering it, so we decided to wait until … next New Year !!! I just hate solo-casting. As you can probably tell, I do a lot of homework, but I don’t prepare any specific thoughts to share. I just like to see where the conversation takes us. Sorry to make you watch that one Allyson.

          Yes, IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS is on the list, but I already told Jay it will probably have to be the grand finale so I can work up the courage. Haha. But, really.

          • Josh,

            In the Mouth of Madness is actually not that maddening. I watched that last year for the first time during my 31 days of Halloween marathon and was greatly disappointed. I loved the premise and I loved the atmosphere Carpenter established, but there is an overlaying silliness to it all that ruins it for me. I feel like there are better examples of what this movie tried to accomplish. One such example is Jacob’s Ladder. It’s a very different movie than In the Mouth of Madness, but as far as the atmosphere goes, I think they’re somewhat close. Another great example (I think) is a videogame called Alan Wake. There are many parallels between the film and the game and there are many references to horror shows, movies, and authors which drive the tone of both. Anyway, In the Mouth of Madness is a 5 for me.

          • Oh and New Year’s Evil is pretty decent. I mean, if you like 70s low budget horror fare like Alice Sweet Alice then you’ll know what to expect. I don’t think New Year’s Evil is on the level of that film, but it has that same feel to it. New Year’s Evil is a 5.

          • Juan, I can definitely see you being disappointed going into “In the Mouth of Madness” expecting a really serious, psychologically disturbing experience (if that was the case with you? it seems to be the case with Josh) because it is slightly goofy in it’s own skewed way. I actually meant to say in my previous comment that I think Josh will probably be underwhelmed by it’s effectiveness considering he seems to have it built up in his mind as something particularly sinister. I think it’s a great movie and as a big Lovecraft fan I enjoy it’s riffs on his work but it’s no more “maddening” than any of Carpenters other films. In his oeuvre I rank it about the same as “Prince of Darkness” and “They Live”. It’s no “Halloween” or “The Thing” but it’s still one of his better movies. And I agree that “Jacobs Ladder” has a similar feel but is a much more psychologically affecting film. Both are great in my book but I need to be in quite different moods to watch them.

          • I agree with David on In the Mouth of Madness. It’s an 8 for me, which is exactly where I put Prince of Darkness. I do enjoy ITMOM, but there certainly is a somewhat silly undertone. Maybe it’s Sam Neil’s performance… hard to put my finger on it. There are some images from the film that have stuck with me, though.

  11. Dear Josh,

    Wolfman’s Got Nards.

    This has to be the funniest set up for a podcast segment I’ve heard yet, and I listen to comedians on audio all the time.

    Please do yourself a favor and read The Exorcist. I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch the film in 20 years and I continue to circle it. So, I read the book and it is amazing. The clarity of Blatty’s story before he worked with atheist (at the time, now professed agnostic) Friedkin on the film is worth reading because his Catholic heart is all over the story with strong concerns about the spiritual state of our culture and the place of the father figure in a home. There’s also the final chapter regarding film and it’s function that’s really interesting. I think you’ll love it!

    • Thanks, Levi. Glad you liked the segment and it’s intro.

      That sounds pretty fascinating, thematically, and as I’ve compared the production stories about “Billy” Friedkin and Wiilam Blatty, I think I prefer the latter as a person whose world view interests me.

  12. Hey, Jay! I take Apple Cider Vinegar every day for heartburn and it works like a charm, but when you take it, is it mixed with water?

    I take it like a shot. But one time, it went down the wrong pipe.

    It was horrifying. I thought I was really going to die. It felt like death.

  13. Man this is one of those episodes where I just have too many things to say. I can’t make sense of it all!

    Firstly, I’m always sad when Dr. Shock isn’t on a show but it was nice of him to leave a voicemail. What a swell guy; he seems like the kind of chap with which it would be fun to have a few beers and watch “Goke, Bodysnatcher from Hell”.

    Dr. Walking Dead was an excellent addition as always though and I loved the political elements of the “Juan of the Dead” discussion. I always enjoy it when Mr Bishop gets really in depth with those kind of themes!

    Next, I was quite surprised by One Sick Puppy’s contempt for “Wolf Creek 2”. That’s one of the handful of new horror films I’ve seen this year and while I didn’t love it, I didn’t think it was particularly awful (though that terrible CGI Kangaroo scene took me so far out of the films otherwise gritty realism that it almost didn’t recover). I really didn’t mind the fact that a lot of the running time was taken up by chase scenes, after all aren’t most Slashers ultimately chase narratives? I also disagree that it slipped into torture porn territory (at least not much more than its predecessor); I thought the scenes where Mick is “Just drinking and singing” were incredibly suspenseful and tense. It’s certainly a step down from the original and it has it’s pretty low moments (the aforementioned Kangaroo scene being the worst) but it’s not that bad.

    And finally Jay, I’m extremely grateful that you brought up “The Bridge” again. Ever since you first mentioned that film I’ve been very curious about it but somewhat trepidatious. It’s hard to not view the concept as exploitative but from your discussion it seems that one shouldn’t prejudge it and write-it-off on that basis alone. Not to get too personal, but I’ve lost two people in my life to suicide, one a close childhood friend and another a family member, so I’m just not entirely sure how I might react to this film but I certainly think that raising such an uncomfortable topic in such a confrontational way is a positive thing and the discussion it might generate will no doubt be extremely valuable. I’ve still not fully made up my mind whether I want to see this yet though.

    Anyway, yet another great episode guys and I love Josh’s new segment. What an amazing idea!

    • I thought Wolf Creek 2 was great. It certainly didn’t live up to the first one, but it wasn’t a mess either. You know, I really like the character of Mick Taylor and I love John Jarratt’s portrayal of him. To me he’s like Australia’s version of Freddy Krueger. He’s an evil son of a bitch that loves tormenting people, but he has really fun and twisted ways to do it. He even has a similar wardrobe with a color scheme that very closely resembles that of Freddy. Has anyone else thought of him that way?

      • I’ve never thought of that before but of the Jason/Michael/Freddy triad Freddy is certainly the one Mick shares the most similarities with personality wise. Although the more Freddy does his wisecracking routine the less scary he is but I don’t know that that’s the case with Mick. He seems like someone who could actually exist and the way he can switch between being very convincingly cheerful and friendly and totally sadistic is extremely chilling. When I think about it he’s probably one of the scariest Slasher villains out there.

    • Thanks, man. I was hoping everyone would like it. I really wish we could have got alive reaction from Jay. It would have been huge. I have to say, though, I’m getting pretty bummed-out preparing for future installments. How do you guys watch this crap?! Haha

      • I was actually wondering about how renewable this new segment might be because I only ever remember you mentioning 2 or 3 movies that you were scared to watch. Are you also going to be covering the more sick/sadistic stuff that you’ve professed to not being a fan of?

          • I can imagine. I think I’m on a similar page to you when it comes to that sort of horror. I enjoy the genre because it’s imaginative and fun and subversive and viable for independent filmmakers but I don’t like when it becomes some kind of macho mental-endurance test or just an exercise in being shocking-for-the-sake-of-shocking.

  14. Oh and Jay, I think “The Mother” in vinegar terms is a living enzymatic compound which processes the basic alcohol into the vinegar. I guess it’s maybe similar to those beers that are still living and fermenting in the bottle with a yeasty sediment? Either way it’s no big deal and it would be far less creepy if they didn’t call it “The Mother”.

    • In Mexico we have an expression “con madre” that literally translates to “with mother”, but it really means something like “badass”. Take from that what you will haha.

    • Love them, revisited them, still love them. They’re both a 9s for me. There’s a third one coming out this year and I’m super excited about it!

        • I’m sure I saw the first one when it came out, but I always mix it up, story-wise, with DARKNESS FALLS. I don’t remember liking it all that much at the time. I’m pretty sure I never saw the second one. I was always turned-off because the director was that pedophile who directed CLOWNHOUSE and POWDER, though I do have a certain affection for both of those films because I saw them before I knew more about that molester. But, I don’t remember being particularly enthralled with JEEPERS, regardless.

          • I didn’t know that about the Jeepers director, but that’s kind of funny given the pervy nature of the Creeper. By “funny,” I don’t mean funny haha, like in horror comedies such as Shaun of the Dead or Zombieland. I mean more sick and twisted funny, like Tusk.

            Anyway, you still watch Woody Allen movies, don’t you? So…

          • I’m sure you’re a fan of his, so how do you feel about watching Roman Polanski films, Josh? I think you’ve touched on this subject in the past, but I forgot what your stance is. Personally, I think it sucks when a director I really like has been involved in deplorable situations, but that doesn’t stop me from watching their body of work. That doesn’t mean that I’m on their side either, just that I’m able to separate my personal feelings towards their personal choices in life and their work, which I so happen to appreciate.

          • Dino, has Woody Allen actually been convicted or is it just accusations at the moment?

            I know Victor Salva was definitely guilty of some pretty awful stuff and I can’t pretend it didn’t colour my appreciation of his movies a little. I do think “Jeepers Creepers” is a pretty fun little film though, although it goes a bit off the rails for me towards the end. I recall not caring much for the sequel but maybe I should revisit it?

          • David – Fair point, but I think you know what I mean.

            As for JEEPERS 1, I would agree that it goes a little loose and fast towards the end, but I don’t think it detracts from the film all that much. Plus, the beginning 20 minutes or so of the movie are very, very good.

            JEEPERS 2 adds – as JOTD would say – the siege narrative to the mix for a large chunk of the movie, which I would say is successful in creating tension and suspense that’s different from the first installment. I dig it.

  15. If I only I heard this episode 20 minutes earlier. I downloaded it at work and while driving home put it on. I was looking forward to the Woman in Black 2 review but nope, the Juan of the Dead review came first. That review got me to the theater where I, of course, saw Woman in Black 2. If that review came first on the episode, in front of Juan of the Dead, I wouldn’t have spent my 8 bucks! After the movie (avoid), I put the episode back on and THEN came the review. Just my luck.

    • So sorry Seamus… This comment breaks my film critic’s heart. This is precisely one half of the reason why I’m a film critic — to help people save their money from bad movies. The other half is to help people find great movies.

      Even sadder still… I usually place the “Feature Review” films (the new stuff in theaters) first in the episode — for this very reason, but since Kyle was joining us for the intro / greeting of the show, it would have been weird, chronologically, to have him disappear for an hour and then resurface again for our “Juan of the Dead” review later on…

      I’m sorry, Buddy. I’ll make sure to put the Features first, whenever possible. Thanks for listening!

  16. Hey again guys. I decided to pick a movie from each of your top ten lists to check out:

    From Josh’s list: Housebound

    I was a little unsure going into “Housebound” because I tend to not find horror comedies particularly appealing. The more I think about this though the more it occurs to me that the real problem is when the comedy elements infringe so much on the horror that any sense of real threat or situational seriousness is diminished. That wasn’t the case here at all. “Housebound” certainly has it’s funny moments but there’s not awkwardly wedged-in joke in sight and none of the humour detracts from the atmosphere and mystery. To me this is more of a “fun” horror movie than an all out comedy. It’s got a great set up, some pretty creepy imagery, an extremely characterful setting and though it’s hardly action-packed it moves along at a very good pace. nothing totally groundbreaking here but it’s a very solid and enjoyable little flick. 7.5/10

    From Jay’s list: The Animal

    Wow, Jay, this has to be one of the most disturbing films I’ve ever seen. The gradual yet terrifying transformation of the main character from a lowly but mentally disturbed nobody into a destructive monster with an animalistic thirst for carnage was a sight to behold. It’s been a while since we’ve seen a movie monster with this much depth; his psychotic penchant for pathetically ill-advised comedic asides was genuinely troubling and conjured feelings of both pity and disdain for the character. I’ll be having nightmares about this movie for a loooooong time. 10/10.

      • Do what? Watch “The Animal” for your segment? You can Josh but I doubt you’ll ever be the same again.

        I’m curious how it got into Jay’s top 10 of 2014 though, according to IMDB it was released in 2001.

          • Haha, I’m sorry for my silly pranks Jay. When I searched “Animal” on IMDB the Rob Schneider movie was the first thing that came up and I couldn’t help myself.

            I did actually watch “Animal” from 2014 though and I enjoyed it for what it was. Nothing original or groundbreaking at all but a solid, straightforward, fast paced monster movie nonetheless. It’s certainly no where near as creative or interesting as “Blood Glacier” though, a movie which I think you were way too hard on.

  17. Okay here is my top 10 for 2014, be gentle:
    10. Chemical Peel: Four friends go to a remote house for a bachelorette party with a newborn baby. To their dismay a train derails nearby… With toxic chemicals onboard. What’s the worst that can happen?
    9. Eat: A film about a nervous habit that goes to far. A gooey fun time.
    8. Late Phases: Indie werewolf film with Nick Damici, and Ethan Embry. Oh and Ginger from Gilligans Island. Great practical effects.
    7. Tusk: This reminds me of those weird 1970 creature feature movies. I bought this.
    6.The Canal: Very Shining-esque. Wish it had a different title.
    5.Crawl or Die: Haven’t felt this claustrophobic since The Descent. I had to pause it after 45 minutes I was so uneasy. If the creature was better it would be my number 1. Dr. Shock recommendation. Thanks doc.
    4.Exists: Some of the shots in this are amazing ie the attack scene on the bike.
    3.Honeymoon: I can’t put my finger on why I love this movie. Its not super scary but it just pulled me in. Felt uneasy when it was over.
    2.The Den: The horrors of the Internet and technology, sometimes you really don’t know who you are talking to. Some scenes are disturbing.
    1.Housebound: I saw this with no idea what it was about. I thought I was going to get a ghost movie and ended up with a slasher. I loved it.

    Honorable mention:
    Blue Ruin: technically not a horror movie but Jay says “horror is the absence of peace”. There is no peace here. A revenge film.
    Cold in July: see above but not a revenge film just a good old southern fried noir-esque flick. These two are on my overall list
    Dead Snow 2
    The Sacrament: “Father” is one of my favorite characters this year
    Extraterrestrial: Alien horror is to me as beastly freaks are to Jay of the Dead. And Michael Ironside is in it.


    • Some really interesting choices here Jan-Gels twin (aka Tim J.)! I’d not even heard of your picks for #10, #9 and #2. “Chemical Peel” especially sounds like it has potential to be rather amusing!

    • One more honorable mention:
      Demons Rook- I like this cause it is a low budget indie movie with excellent practical effects. The acting isn’t stellar but it feels like most of the love and money went to the practical effects. Has an 80s feel to it.

    • Cool list, Tim! I haven’t seen many of the films you listed, but they all sound interesting. I have to disagree with you on The Den though. I liked what they tried to do with it, but I didn’t think they pulled it off. But that’s just me. It’s refreshing to see such a different list than everyone else’s though.

  18. I don’t know where to put this cause it could go anywhere but I need one of your guys opinions on Southern Comfort 1981..you will see this again…I loved it!!!

    • I really enjoy “Southern Comfort”. I guess most people wouldn’t call it horror but it’s certainly got a lot in common with the survival-horror and slasher sub-genres. There’s that surviving-danger-at-every-turn element echoed from Walter Hill’s earlier movie (and one of my favourites) “The Warriors” but with a darker more “Deliverence”-esque tone and atmosphere.

  19. I watched a lot of horror in 2014, so thought I’d have a good amount of material to compile a decent list. Sadly, though, only 14 of those were 2014 releases, and most of them were more mainstream. So, my lists will be thin and have some overlap… sorry. That said, I am generally picky with what I choose to watch, so the worst 2014 horror film I saw was a 5/10.

    Top 10 Horror of 2014:

    1. The Babadook – 8 (#7 on my overall list)
    This movie is much more effective to me when viewed as a metaphor. My rating of it has gone up as time has gone by, so this will be an interesting re-watch for me to see if it stands up to the version that has been replaying in my head.

    2. Tusk – 8
    This is not at all what I would call a horror/comedy. There are comedic elements, for sure, but they mostly play as much more disturbing in nature than funny. This is one of the more disturbing movies I’ve seen in a long time, in a good way. I really wonder how I would react in that situation. Just so many thoughts and questions in my mind after seeing this film. It really blew my mind.

    3. As Above, So Below – 7.5
    I really enjoyed this film in every way. I loved the premise, I loved the location, I really liked the actors… the shaky cam got a little rough at parts, but I really love this mockumentary style of found footage horror film. This movie was superbly creepy, and a whole lot of fun.

    4. Exists – 7.5
    Such a fun film. Definitely the best Bigfoot movie I’ve ever seen, this is one horror film from 2014 that lived up to the hype (for me). A little light on the scare factor, though, which is a little disappointing because the opportunity was there (especially with the sequences when they’re hiding in the cabin). The lack of “scare” is what kept this one just out of my top 3.

    5. Godzilla – 7.5
    I love monster movies, and this film does the monsters well. P.S. Godzilla isn’t fat… he’s perfect just the way he is.

    6. Open Grave – 7
    Begins with a bang, and unfolds into a great horror mystery. Sort of like a straight and slightly scary version of Clue.

    7. In Fear – 7
    This film was maddening to me, in a good way. It felt very claustrophobic, not just because most of it takes place in a car in the dark, but the feeling of being hopelessly trapped created so much dread for me.

    8. The Taking of Deborah Logan – 6.5
    Possession movies freak me out, and this is a creepy little found footage flick. Disturbing backstory, too. Definitely a pleasant little surprise of a horror flick.

    9. Oculus – 6.5
    It had some creepy moments, but ultimately did not deliver. It’s probably one of the better made horror films of the year, but just didn’t have the scare factor. I went in with such high hopes… this one was disappointing.

    10. The Sacrament – 6.5
    The real life story the film is based on is horrific, I’m a Ti West fan, and love found footage, so this should have been a slam dunk for me. In the end, I didn’t mind the film, but was left wanting more.

    Honorable Mentions:

    – Afflicted – 6.5
    Similar to The Sacrament, I didn’t mind this film. I think I would have enjoyed it more if it went in a different direction (but don’t want to say more and spoil the film for those who haven’t seen it yet).

    – Deliver Us from Evil – 5.5
    The beginning two-thirds of this film make for a pretty decent horror/mystery/thriller, but it goes off the rails at the end. I had high hopes for this one but, ultimately, it disappoints.

    – The Den – 5.5
    I’m so mad at this movie. I loved the premise and, again, the found footage format was a bonus in my book. But, man, I struggled with this movie. It excelled in creating unease with its immense brutality (actually made me a little squeamish at times), but failed miserably to create any real suspense.

    – Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones – 5
    I rather enjoyed this film. It’s not “great” by any means, but I think it’s good for what it is. There are some legitimately scary moments for me, like the scene in the basement (was that a basement?) and the ending. I got pretty much what I was expecting with this one, which is an average found footage flick.

    Most Disappointing:
    – Deliver Us from Evil
    – Oculus
    – The Sacrament
    – The Den

    Worst Damn Horror Movie of 2014: The Den
    I rated “Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones” lower, but I’m so mad at “The Den”… it had to be my most hated horror movie of 2014.

    My 2014 Horror Movie Queue (in order of interest):
    1. The Town That Dreaded Sundown
    2. Honeymoon
    3. [Rec] 4: Apocalypse
    4. Annabelle
    5. Only Lovers Left Alive
    6. Housebound (didn’t have interest before, but do now after all the HMP community endorsements)
    7. The Purge: Anarchy
    8. Wolf Creek 2
    9. The Dead 2
    10. Beneath
    11. Jessabelle
    12. The Pyramid
    13. The Remaining
    14. Joy Ride 3 (I can’t help it, I loved the first one)
    15. Willow Creek
    16. Nurse 3D (if it’s anything like American Mary, I’m in)

    – The 50 Best Horror Movies You’ve Never Seen
    Classified as a TV movie on IMDb, but released on the Internet on May 27, 2014. I’m interested to check it out and see what kind of “obscure” horror films they mention (probably just setting myself up for disappointment). From IMDb: “Fifty lesser-known horror flicks hailed by critics and genre fans as ‘absolute must-sees’ are given the spotlight with fun, engaging commentary from journalists, directors, actors and critics in a countdown like no other.”

    • You’re cutting me deep here, man.

      You’re not going to let me live that one “horror/comedy” moment down despite over an hour of in-depth review on TUSK on two podcasts, are you Dino?

      What did the community say to convince you that I couldn’t in 2-3 reviews on both podcasts?

      Great lists, though. I’m with you on 95% of them.

      Hadn’t heard of In Fear or The Taking of Deborah Logan until the community chimed in, though. Need to check those out.

      • Ha! To be honest, the repeated dig was completely unintentional. I literally just copy and pasted my TUSK comment from the MPW board when throwing together this top 10 list. As a matter of fact, it was you placing TUSK on your top 10 overall list on MPW that convinced me to finally see the film.

        I do need to go back and give the in-depth discussion on episode 26 a re-listen, though, now that I’ve watched TUSK. Interestingly enough, Jay gave TUSK a higher rating (7.5) than you (7) at the time.

        Btw, episode 26 has turned out to be a gem as far as recommendations are concerned: TUSK, HONEYMOON, CRAWL OR DIE, KILLER MERMAID, HORROR BUSINESS, THE DEAD, and THE DEAD 2.

        p.s. The funny haha dig in the JEEPERS CREEPERS thread… that was intentional.

    • Great list Dino! Many of your picks made it to either my top ten or honorable mentions too.

      Open Grave is a movie that I want to like a lot more, but I think I’m more in love with the idea than with the execution. Idea wise, I think it’s the best premise by far out of all the horror movies that I watched this year. It was so exciting to find out that I was watching a zombie movie (or infected if you prefer to separate the two) without showing a whole lot. There were glimpses here and there of a possible virus outbreak, but it was never talked about or confirmed until the very end and that really got my brain juices going. Before watching this, it had never crossed my mind that a zombie movie could be made without using zombies. Anyway, I’m probably making it sound a lot more exciting than it is. Ultimately Open Grave was a pretty big disappointment, because it had potential to be so much more.

      • Thanks Juan. Slim pickins’ overall in 2014, but I still think we were able to get a few quality horror flicks out of the year.

        As for Open Grave, I can see what you’re saying and might actually tend to agree. It could have been great. I still really enjoyed it, though. In fact, it was in my overall honorable mentions list over on MPW. (to be fair, I ended up seeing A LOT of new movies after I submitted that list, so it probably would have been bumped)

    • I watched “The 50 best horror movies you’ve never seen” on iTunes and I did find some gems on it but there are some movies that haven’t been seen for a reason. Enjoy

    • You always post insightful comments full of intelligent observations Dino and I enjoyed hearing your input on the MPW best of 2014 episode so it’s great to also see your 2014 horror list.

      Also, I really like the way that you rate movies. I’m similarly reluctant to dish out a 10/10 upon first viewing (it does happen but very rarely) because to me that position should mostly be reserved for the movies that I can watch ad nauseam and never tire of. It was also cool to see “Godzilla” on your list. That movie’s gotten some unfair treatment in my opinion.

      • Thanks David. That’s nice of you to say.

        Godzilla was a movie I certainly enjoyed, but I had difficulty classifying it as horror. I go back and forth on that all the time, particularly with movies like Godzilla or Jaws. Does the inclusion of a classic “monster” make it a horror movie by default? I don’t know, but given the fact that I saw so few 2014 horror releases last year it was easier for me to include.

        • Yeah, I totally sympathise with the difficultly inherent in categorising “Godzilla” as horror. Deep down I feel like it isn’t true horror but it’s lineage is so interlinked with the genre that it’s hard to dissociate and speaking personally the “giant, rather destructive monster” concept appeals very much to the same part of my brain that is enthralled by more blatant horror cinema. I guess “Monster on the rampage” can be traced back to the likes of Shelley and Lovecraft (and of course far further in the lines of mythology) so there’s little denying an extent of it’s relevance.


    My wife, who is a psychologist, forwarded an article to me earlier today that is the most interesting, intelligent, and in-depth discussion of The Babadook I’ve come across so far. Most of it is stuff we already know and have discussed, but it is framed in such a smartly comprehensive way. It even elevated some themes from the movie to a completely new level of understanding for me, and often gave me chills (the second-to-last paragraph, in particular).

    I think the article (linked below) is worth a read, but only if you have already seen The Babadook.


    p.s. The linked article contains spoilers for additional movies. Heed the spoiler warning at the top of the article.

    @JOTD – Knowing how highly you regard The Babadook, I’m curious as to whether or not it now lands on your top 10 horror films of all-time. My guess is that it does… I’m just wondering where it slots in.

    For me, as I said above, the film just keeps getting better and better with every replay in my mind as time goes on. The problem is that, even while I was watching it, I appreciated the film and how good it was more than the enjoyment I was getting out of it. That’s why I’m so eager to revisit The Babadook, to see if my impression of the movie has changed as my understanding of it has matured.

    • I’m only a little way into this article so far but I’m already fascinated. many thanks to you and your wife for bringing such an awesome piece of analysis to our attention Dino. This is the kind of stuff I get a huge kick out of!

  21. Jay: “You are a legit horror podcaster when you’re podcasting from your basement.”

    Kyle stressed that it was not his mother’s basement, though I feel that would make a horror podcaster more legit.

    Most legit, though, is podcasting from *someone else’s* basement.

    • Couldn’t tell if you were serious or joking, so I tried to find the moment you were talking about, but I couldn’t find it. Are you referring to Dr. Walking Dead’s “love it or leave it” rant?

      • Yeah, but I was only half serious, half joking around. He didn’t really say anything graphic, it’s just the way he went to say “I still love the country” but stopped before pronouncing the “ry”. Not sure why I notice things like that, haha.

  22. And As Above So Below worked for me. I really dug the ambiance and creepiness and I loved the parallel to Dante’s Inferno how they keep going down but somehow end up coming out on the surface. And the mirror image symbolism got me. Loved it.

    • Excellent point on the parallel to Dante’s Inferno. I agree with everything you said, Peter. It was #3 on my 2014 list. Gave it a 7.5/10.

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