Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 107: Christmas Horror (2016 edition)


Merry Christmas from HORROR MOVIE PODCAST! Episode 107 features Killer Santas and Santa Killers in our chilling 2016 edition of CHRISTMAS HORROR. Feature Reviews include new-release Christmas slasher Good Tidings (2016), classic ’80s slasher Don’t Open Till Christmas (1984), and Adam Green’s take on the popular Disney musical Frozen (2010). You’ll also get mini reviews of ATM (2012) and Santa’s Slay (2005), prize giveaways from our sponsors at Cryptocurium and Fright Rags, and feedback from the unofficial HMP After Dark screening of A Christmas Horror Story (2015).

Coming up next time: We’re bringing you Horror Movie Podcast’s Top 10 Horror Movies of 2016 as well as the Top 10 horror movies of the HMP community! Make sure you e-mail your Top 10 picks to horrormoviepodcast@gmail.com before Jan. 1, 2017. Don’t miss this episode!

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I. Introduction
— A few thoughts about Christmas Horror
— Thanks to Kagan for Christmas-itizing the HMP intro theme
— Coming up in Ep. 108: Top 10 Horror Movies of 2016. E-mail your Top 10 picks to HorrorMoviePodcast@gmail.com before Jan. 1, 2017

[ 0:16:26 ] II. Feature Review: GOOD TIDINGS (2016)
Wolfman Josh = 5 ( Low-priority Rental )

[ 0:32:44 ] III. Mini Review: ATM (2012)
Jay of the Dead = 7 ( Rental )

[ 0:44:36 ] IV. Mini Review: Santa’s Slay (2005)
Wolfman Josh = 4 ( Avoid )

Listen to Planet Macabre’s review of Santa’s Slay at Horror On The Go.com

—Movie Podcast Network Holiday Greeting from: Movie Stream Cast
—HMP After Dark live-streaming watch party: A Christmas Horror Story (2015)
—Jolly Old Dr. Shock arrives!

[ 1:15:26 ] V. Mini Review: Silent Night, Deadly Night III: Better Watch Out! (1989)
Jay of the Dead = 4 ( Low-priority Rental )

[ 1:37:15 ] VI. Feature Review: DON’T OPEN TILL CHRISTMAS (1984)
Dr. Shock = 7.5 ( Avoid )
Wolfman Josh = 3.5 ( Rental )

[ 1:54:24 ] VII. Feature Review: Adam Green’s FROZEN (2010)
Jay of the Dead = 8 ( Buy it! )
Wolfman Josh = 6 ( High-priority Rental )
Dr. Shock = 7 ( Rental )

VIII. Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending
— Listener question from Twitter
— HMP Christmas Presents


Huge “Thank You” on behalf of the HMP audience to sponsors:
Cryptocurium for the Slasher Ornaments!
Fright Rags for the killer Krampus T-shirt!

JOIN US NEXT WEEK ON HMP: Episode 108: Top 10 Horror Movies of 2016. E-mail your Top 10 picks to HorrorMoviePodcast@gmail.com before Jan. 1, 2017.


—Be sure to check out HMP Listener of the Year Kagan’s many talents at KaganBreitenbach.com

—Hear Wolfman Josh’s guest appearance on the Retro Movie Geek to talk about Scream on the film’s 20th anniversary.

For the holiday season, be sure to listen to these classic podcasts of Christmas past:

Christmas Horror 2013 (Ep 05)
Dead Snow, Devil’s Pass, Silent Night, Deadly Night, Black Christmas

Christmas Horror 2014 (Ep 37)
P2, Christmas Evil, Saint, Gremlins, Wind Chill, The Last Winter

Christmas Horror 2015 (Ep 78)
Krampus, A Christmas Horror Story, Rare Exports, Silent Night Bloody Night

Planet Macabre’s review of Santa’s Slay at BillChete’s Horror on the Go!

Jay of the Dead’s links:

Follow Jay of the Dead and Horror Movie Podcast Official Twitter
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Jay of the Dead covers new releases in theaters on Movie Podcast Weekly
And if you’d like to e-mail Jay of the Dead with a good Beastly Freaks recommendation: BeastlyFreaks@gmail.com

Wolfman Josh’s links:
Follow Josh on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @IcarusArts
Horror Movie Podcast Official Instagram @HorrorMovieCast
Josh covers the Monsters Universe, new and classic, on Universal MonstersCast.com
Follow UMC on Twitter @MonstersCast
Josh covers streaming online movies on MovieStreamCast.com
Follow MSC on Twitter @MovieStreamCast
Like MSC on Facebook

Dr. Shock’s links:
Dave writes daily movie review on DVDinfatuation.com
Follow Dave on Twitter @DVDinfatuation
Like Dave’s DVD Infatuation, now on Facebook
Dr. Shock also appears on another horror podcast: Land of the Creeps

Dr. Walking Dead’s links:
Order Kyle’s new book! How Zombies Conquered Popular Culture: The Multifarious Walking Dead in the 21st Century
Order Kyle’s previous books American Zombie Gothic and Triumph of The Walking Dead
Follow Kyle on Twitter @DrWalkingDead

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70 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 107: Christmas Horror (2016 edition)

  1. Merry Christmas! — Jay of the Dead actually released an episode on time! That’s my present to all of you…

    Your present to me can be to e-mail your Top 10 Horror Movies of 2016 to HorrorMoviePodcast@gmail.com BEFORE January 1, 2017!

    Thanks, and enjoy!
    Jay of the Dead

  2. Loving this episode already.
    Yes, ATM, totally a Christmas horror film.
    I too enjoyed it, minor things dinged it, but yeah a solid 6/10.

  3. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to my co-hosts and all the listeners of HMP.

    It is an honor to be part of this podcast, and record alongside these two fine gentlemen.

    To know there are such wonderful people out there enjoying what we do is an added bonus, and I’m truly thankful for all of you. I can tell you (speaking for Jay and Josh) that your kindness and support has meant the world to all three of us.

  4. Ho, Ho, Ho Welcome to the show! Awesome Jay! I saw a few people had The Good Neighbor on their Top 10 list, so I thought I’d give it a watch. I can say that about 2/3 of the movie I didn’t like at first. When everything ties together near the end, man, it made the mediocre first 2/3 a lot better!


    It hit me pretty hard when you find out what you do and I was pretty moved by it. It got my blood boiling and I got mad with what the characters did. If you saw the movie Disturbia, you kind of get that vibe of spying on a neighbor and conclusions that may not be the way you think. Once you find out what the neighbors life has been like through flashbacks in a courtroom, you want to punch these kids. Then you get the last moments of the movie and I really blew a gasket! How insignificant the court makes what happen feel, I just couldn’t believe it. Stupid kids doing a stupid thing and getting off easy really pissed me off! I give it a 8/10. It didn’t replace anything in my Top 10, but highly recommend everyone watch it, it got to me and hopefully, it will you, makes the movie that much better. Merry Christmas HMP!

    • Agreed. When I saw the trailer, The Good Neighbor looked dumb, but I gave it a shot and glad I did. Like Dark Passenger, I wasn’t into it at first, but then it really picked up. The ending was very upsetting, but probably realistic.

    • I found this film be a fun watch as well but I didn’t mind the first 2/3. I thought there was good tension and character development. The ending, for me, was a little predictable and anticlimactic. But yea, a fun watch. 6.5/10

  5. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to Jay of the Dead, Wolfman Josh and Dr.Shock and all the HMP Gang!

    On a personal note, it’s been a rough 2016 and owe it to the HMP for serving as an escape. It’s become somewhere I can turn to and get lost in the intelligent, thought provoking, and funny 4 hour journeys.

    Here’s to the new year, new scares and continued success.

    Thank you!

  6. Guys, I loved this episode. I want to try and help figure out the “movie” in question. So, I remember as a kid, watching a lot of Tales From The Darkside. One of my favorite episodes took place on a train, and by the description given, I believe this might be the one in mention. The episode is called: The Last Car.

    Many times I’ve thought of “movies” from my childhood that I’d like to revisit, not knowing the titles, I’m left with clues to research. Most of these “movies” ended up being from horror anthology shows. I hope this helps, and if it’s not the right one, I’m sure someone will eventually lead you in the right direction. After all, this is the best place for horror on the Internet.

    Happy holidays everyone! Best wishes and God bless all your families.


  7. I’m so sad that I forgot about this Blumhouse production of Christmas shorts, because it really could have saved this episode. I didn’t watch it for the first time until the day AFTER we recorded bc it totally slipped my mind as we were preparing the Christmas show.

    This is must-watch Christmas Horror! 12 DEADLY DAYS on YouTube Red. If you sign up for a free trial of YouTube Red you can watch it for free!

    Basically, Blumhouse hired YouTube stars who were already doing really great work to produce these shorts. Many of them were also written by active horror writers. They really vary in tone, episode to episode, but some of them are REALLY good.

    This would have been the best possible feature for this episodes, IMO. Maybe it will still be of interest next year. Let me know if you see it! It’s a lot of fun.

  8. I’m all 2016’d out, so I decided to switch things up and watch some Hercule Poirot mysteries. Many seasons of BBC’s “Agatha Christie’s Poirot” are on Netflix in the US. I started with the only official Christmas ep, The Blue Carbunkle. Wasn’t feeling it, so went for a classic in Murder on the Orient Express.

    I have to say, I’m really enjoying this BBC version of Murder on the Orient Express. Like I said, it’s on Netflix. Season 12 of Agatha Christie’s Poirot. In some ways it is better than the star-studded original with Albert Finney, Ingrid Bergman, Lauren Bacall, Sean Connery et al – which I also greatly enjoy.

    This one has some good talent too like Jessica Chastain and Barbara Hershey. Toby Jones is an excellent Ratchett. This is a high-recommend for me if you like these old murder mysteries. But if you do watch it, skip the first 8-9 minutes until they are on the train. It’s starts out pretty rough and you don’t need that exposition.

    Now I’m really looking forward to the new Kenneth Branagh version of Murder on the Orient Express that is coming out next year with Daisy Ridley, Judi Dench, Michael Peña, Penélope Cruz, Josh Gad, and Johnny Depp that is coming out next year. I just wish Branagh wasn’t going to act in it. I’d heard that Leonardo DiCaprio was in the cast at some point. Anyway…

    Well worth a watch.

    • I like Lumet’s version better but Suchet’s works just fine.

      I’m excited for Christie back on the big screen but can’t we do another Poirot story? Hopefully this is a hit and we will get a Murder of Roger Ackroyd movie.

      Did you hear about Affleck doing Witness for the Prosecution? It’s listed on IMDB as a 2018 film. The original film is my favorite Christie adaptation.

      • I suppose I ultimately like the ’74 film better too, but I’ve just seen that version so many times, it was nice to get a fresh take.

        I really like Suchet in the role, though. He might be my favorite Poirot. Not looking forward to Branagh.

        Previous to this my favorite Poirot and Christie adaptation was Peter Ustinov in Death on the Nile. I love that movie.

        I agree that it would be nice to see something else, but I think it had to be the Orient Express to make a Christie movie today on a Hollywood budget. It’s the only one that has the name recognition for general audiences. At least in the US. I think our best chance is getting another director ripping off Christie with an indirect adaptation – like Tarantino did with The Hateful Eight. Loved that.

        But, man, this BBC series is very well done. I’m looking forward to digging into more of them. I’d seen several about a decade ago, but it will be nice and easy to see it through with them all on DVD.

        There was a Man in the Brown Suit adaptation that I had taped off TV as a kid and watched a million times. I’d like to track that down. I wonder if it holds up.

        • Warner Archive has a streaming service where they had a lot of those 80s Agatha Christie TV Movies and Man in the Brown Suit was one of them. Not sure if they are still on there but you can check it out and sign up for a free trial if they are. I know they also had a few of the Peter Ustinov Ones like Murder in Three Acts and I can’t remember the other one.

          Death on the Nile and Evil Under the Sun are my favorite films with Poirot; I love Ustinov in the role and Suchet is brilliant as well.

    • We need an Agatha Christie adaptation podcast. They have them for everything else. I just finished listening to a podcast on Columbo episodes so why not Christie?

  9. Hey guys. Love the show so much. This may be a reach, but the train sequence in Dreamscape always scared me as a kid. It has a red hue and a *spoiler* heart wrentching scene. Just a thought. It did play on cable a lot in the late 80’s.

    • You are actually the second person to suggest this, seasick, so you may well be onto something! Redcap Jack thought the same thing. Dreamscape is a film that freaked me out as a kid and I never revisited it. I guess I’d better rewatch it to answer this question. Thanks for your help and thanks for listening! Glad you are enjoying the show.

    • This is the one that instantly jumped into my head when I was listening. I was just about to comment but was evidently beaten to the punch!

      The sequence with the guy on the train through a scarlet skied post apocalyptic wasteland definitely could be interpreted by a kid as a journey through hell and it’s definitely disturbing enough to stick with someone for years, even after the rest of the movie is forgotten.

  10. Nice to hear you guys talk about ATM. That’s a movie I discovered a few years back and have had a great time showing it to some friends. Josh Peck is honestly one of the reasons I keep coming back to it. I think he outacts everyone in that movie and I truly think there’s big things in store for that dude. Perhaps he was annoying in Drake and Josh and Snow Day, but Mean Creek? The Wackness? The guy has something really genuine going on

    • Thanks for the comment, Liam. Peck was absolutely incredible in Mean Creek. I love the film and I think the other guys appreciate it too. But based on the other things I’ve seen him in, like Red Dawn, I assumed that MC was a fluke. He just feels a little forced and fake to me. The Wackness is an example of a film that I did not buy him in at all. His performance felt very put-on to me. I will go in open minded. The movie sounds interesting based on Jay’s review. Glad to see more love here and there was some for it on Twitter as well when we posted this episode. As I said, huge fan of the writer. Really hoping to like it!

  11. Just finished watching Santa’s Slay (2005). After hearing Wolman’s review, curiosity got the best of me. It had it’s funny moments and some cool Santa mythology. 4/10

    • Hahaha. I swear more people watch the movies I say to avoid than the ones ithat I recommend. I agree with everything you said. That ice rink scene, though. Hard to come back from that. And they don’t.

      I think I forgot to mention that I love the actor who played the grandpa. I know him best from Greatest American Hero, but he was a day player on a bunch of TV shows in the 80s. I was so excited to see him that I immediately wanted to see what he was doing now and then found out that he had passed away. Sad. I’m seriously going to go back and explore his filmography, though. I find him so likeable.

  12. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays guys. Wonderful to have another Christmas episode, I feel like these have become kind of a festive tradition. The perfect soundtrack for last minute present wrapping.

    • Music to my ears. I’m already planning next year’s show and I think it’s going to be great! Feel really dumb that I forgot to plug 12 Deadly Days. That would have been icing on the cake.

  13. I loved the Christmas greetings from Movie Stream Cast with Josh and Little Buddy. I haven’t watched a lot of Christmas films this season because I’ve been catching up on 2016 horror but I did watch all of the Office Christmas specials. That’s a great recommendation. Little Buddy’s Belsnickel was spot on.

  14. Alright Josh…Just finished watching The Wailing and I’m placing it at number 3 in my top ten…It was amazing and a great way to spend Christmas morning…

      • I’m stating to believe that watching foreign films with subtitles make me super focus on the movie experience themselves because you don’t have the the luxury of looking away without missing something…My top 3 films of the year speak for themselves…

  15. I’m a grinch and really don’t like christmas much. I hate buying presents. I sound horrible. Anyhow, loved listening to the episode. This segment gave me a chuckle:
    [ 1:37:15 ] VI. Feature Review: DON’T OPEN TILL CHRISTMAS (1984)
    Dr. Shock = 7.5 ( Avoid )
    Wolfman Josh = 3.5 ( Rental )

    Always a pleasure listening to you guys, especially when you don’t agree.

  16. Regarding the end of the episode where there was uncertainty over the film with a train through hell with a red hue, is it possible the film in question is Dreamscape? Toward the end of the film there’s a scene where Eddie Albert as the president is joined on a train (in a dream) by Dennis Quaid who has the ability to venture into others’ dreams. There they must ultimately defeat the man tasked with assassinating the president as played by David Patrick Kelly…who resembles a young Christopher Walken. :) Hope that helps!

  17. Hey, guys… I sincerely hope you all had a very merry Christmas and a happy holiday season all around. I just wanted to say a couple quick things before these sleeping pills finish their work. I can already feel my fingers wanting to get their typo on! Ha ha.

    I LOVED to hear your brief talk of the history of Christmastime Ghost Stories. On the Horror Corridor Christmas episode, that was actually the theme! I was sort of hoping to hear your take on that old tradition. Perhaps next Christmas?

    Wolfman, I loved your enthusiasm in this episode. I was out on Christmas Eve doing some last minute Christmas-shopping, and it was an utter nightmare. This episode really helped me not have a psychotic breakdown! I think I’m joking… not sure.

    I’ll tell ya, though… it broke my heart (not really) to hear my homie Wolfman give Good Tidings a better rating than Santa’s Slay. I do love Wolfman’s explanations, though. One thing I love about all the podcasters I listen to is that even when I’m in total disagreement with them, I love to hear how they back up their ratings. That’s what critics have to do that the casual movie-goer isn’t really tasked with, and that’s the idea that you’ve got to be able to vocalize (or write out) those difficult to articulate aspects about your feelings for a film. So… even though I rated Good Tidings (2016) a 3.5 and Santa’s Slay (2005) a 7, I dig the well-worded way Wolfman went with it. Much respect.

    Guys, I’m fading out. Loved the episode and just wanted to comment on it after leaving a comment on episode 106. Much love, guys!

  18. Hi Horror fans!
    Jay of the Dead here. Sorry I’ve been M.I.A. I’m just wrapping up production on Movie Podcast Weekly’s Top 10 Movies of 2016 show. It’s 3 1/2 hours of fun for any of you cinephiles who love all genres, in addition to horror. It releases this weekend: http://moviepodcastweekly.com/ It will be Ep. 220.

    Meanwhile, we’re approaching our deadline for the HMP community to submit your Top 10 Horror Movies of 2016 for our HMP Top 10 show. Remember, this is where you submit those by e-mail:


    We’ve received a lot of submissions thus far (already more than MPW)! Please keep them coming! Even if you only loved three horror films — or just one! — send your picks to us. You don’t have to have 10.

    *** The deadline to submit your Top 10 list is Saturday (tomorrow), Dec. 31, 2016, by 11:59 p.m. Eastern time. ***

    I’m sorry I didn’t provide much detail or instruction for sending your lists. If you’ve already sent your list, then don’t worry about anything below. What you’ve sent is great. But if you haven’t sent your list yet, please help me out by observing the format below:

    Jay of the Dead’s Top 10 Horror Movies of 2016
    (12 pts.) 1. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (10 pts.) 2. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (9 pts.) 3. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (8 pts.) 4. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (7 pts.) 5. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (6 pts.) 6. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (5 pts.) 7. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (4 pts.) 8. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (3 pts.) 9. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (2 pts.) 10. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead

    Honorable Mention of 2016:
    (1 pt.) 11. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (1 pt.) 12. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (1 pt.) 13. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (1 pt.) 14. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead
    (1 pt.) 15. Horror Movie Title —Jay of the Dead

    This format above will help me save time during my tallying of the listener lists. And then, you’re welcome to include an expanded list below, where you write a sentence or two about your thoughts on each film pick. We will read some of these on the show!

    We record this episode next week and plan to release it on Friday, Jan. 6, 2017. Thanks for being a part of it!

    Jay of the Dead
    Horror Movie Podcast
    Dead Serious About Horror Movies.

  19. I finally watched The Invitation earlier in the week and had Jay add it to my top ten…Very intense and disturbing…Better late than never…

  20. I also watched I am not a serial killer…Loved it up till the end…not saying the ending was bad but it wasn’t what I was expecting and the supernatural bent was too much of a departure from the tone of the rest of the film…

  21. I wish all you guys a great 2017, filled with scares and gore !
    Hopefully this year brings us less real life horrors though …

  22. I’m starting to get really pumped for the top 10 episode! This was such a good year for horror, so I’m expecting (hoping) to see a lot of variety on our lists.

    Have fun recording tonight, boys.

    • For fun, I’m entering in my official picks for the hosts’ top horror films of 2016…

      Jay of the Dead
      1. Green Room
      2. The Witch
      3. The Invitation

      Dr. Shock
      1. The Witch
      2. Green Room
      3. Don’t Breathe

      Wolfman Josh
      1. The Wailing
      2. Green Room
      3. Demon
      4. The Triangle***
      5. I Am Not a Serial Killer
      6. The Witch
      7. Don’t Breathe
      8. The Good Neighbor
      9. Train to Busan
      10. Scherzo Diabolico
      HM 1. Lights Out
      HM 2. The Love Witch
      HM 3. Under the Shadow
      HM 4. They’re Watching
      HM 5. Blair Witch

      ***If he doesn’t count The Triangle as horror, then Lights Out gets bumped up to #10 and Ghostbusters becomes his fifth honorable mention.

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