Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 122: Shark Attack! — Part 1

HMP Shark Attack Part1

Welcome to the shark-infested waters of HORROR MOVIE PODCAST! This is Episode 122, Shark Attack!, the first entry in what may become a recurring themed discussion, revisited in summers to come: killer sharks in horror cinema! This time Jay of the Dead, Dr. Shock and Wolfman Josh discuss the themes, tropes and challenges of shark movies and bring you reviews of Shark Attack in the Mediterranean (2004), Shark Night 3D (2011), and Open Water (2004), plus plenty of other great shark-talk, including a riff on the current streak of absurdist shark comedies, lots of obligatory Jaws (1975) discussion, a Campfire Tale from a friend of the show, and much, much more. Let’s dive in!

Horror Movie Podcast is a bi-weekly show that’s released every other Friday. If you’d like to support our show, please subscribe to our podcast free in iTunes, and leave us a review! And remember, we love getting your voicemails, so call in with more recommendations and comments at this number: (801) 382-8789 Thanks for listening to Horror Movie Podcast where we’re Dead Serious About Horror Movies!


I. Introduction
— Real-life horror stories (kinda, not really) from Dave, Jay and Josh
— Be sure you didn’t miss our recently released HMP Ep. 121 and JOTD’s epic blog about Trojan Horses at the Gates of Horror
— HMP Shark Attack themed episodes

[ 0:14:15 ] II. Shark Week!

— Wolfman previews the upcoming Shark Week 2017

HMP Shark Week Schedule

— See “The Best of Shark Week” in theaters: Shark Week At the Movies

HMP Shark Week Movie

[ 0:17:48 ] III. Campfire Tale: Keoni Bowthorpe

— Josh’s friend Keoni humbly tells his tale of awesomeness during a shark attack
— Check out Keoni’s work on Vimeo

[ 0:34:05 ] IV. Theme discussion: Sharks Attacks in Horror

— ICYMI: Check out our Horror Movie Podcast review of Jaws (1975)

[ 0:59:25 ] V. Feature Review: SHARK ATTACK IN THE MEDITERRANEAN (2004)
aka Shark Alarm!
Dr. Shock = 4 ( Avoid )

Dr. Shock = 6.5 ( Rental )

— Jay discusses USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage (2016)
— Dr. Shock discusses Sam Fuller’s Shark! (1969)

[ 1:21:16 ] VII. Review: BLUE WATER, WHITE DEATH (1971)
Wolfman Josh = 7.5 ( Rental )
Dr. Shock = 8.5 ( Buy it! )

— Influence on Jaws (1975) and The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (2004)— Josh discusses Death Beach (2012)

VIII. Mid-Show Notes and Dave’s Send-Off

— Dave’s Plugs
— Coming soon to MPN: “We Deal in Lead” (Western Podcast)
— Josh’s “Darwin Awards – 2014” news story: “Man Immediately Regrets Jumping Onto A Dead Whale Being Eaten By Great White Sharks” (photo below)
— JAWS socks giveaway (just re-publish our our social media posts for this episode to enter)
– Found “Fish” Critic corrects JOTD’s “47 Meters Down” review

HMP Whale Rider

[ 1:53:53 ] IX. Theme Discussion: Bad, Absurdist Comedy Shark Movies

Mini Reviews:

Jay of the Dead = 2 ( Avoid )

Wolfman Josh = 0 ( Avoid )

Jay of the Dead = 5.5 ( Rental / Stream )

DARK TIDE (2012)
Wolfman Josh = 5.5 ( Low-priority Rental / Stream )

Wolfman Josh = 7.5 ( Buy it! )

[ 2:38:02 ] X. Feature Review: OPEN WATER (2004)
Jay of the Dead = 9 ( Buy it! ) – No. 2 Greatest Shark Movie
Wolfman Josh = 6 ( Not for everyone / Buy it! )

XI. Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending
— 3 Stephen King episodes coming up, 2 on HMP and 1 MPN special for patrons
MPN Meetup Event on October 14th, 2017 in SLC, Utah – Buy tickets!
— Our Patreon supporters can get discounted MPN Meetup Tickets: Here!

JOIN US WEEK AFTER NEXT: For another Horror Movie Podcast themed episode when we’ll be discussing the cinematic adaptations of Horror Maestro Stephen King.

NOTE FOR NEWCOMERS: If you love this podcast, there are 36 episodes of two other great podcasts that precede this one. Just scroll back through our archives, or use the links in the sidebar on the right.

Leave a comment or e-mail us here: HorrorMoviePodcast@gmail.com


— Full Shark Week schedule on Discovery Channel

— News Report Video: “Haleiwa man honored for saving surfer during shark attack

— Josh’s friend Keoni humbly tells his tale of awesomeness

— Check out Keoni Bowthorpe’s work on Vimeo

— Horror Movie Podcast’s review of Jaws (1975)

— Jay of the Dead’s review of The Shallows (2016) with Kagan Breitenbach

— Jay of the Dead’s review of 47 Meters Down (2017)

— News Article: Man Immediately Regrets Jumping Onto A Dead Whale Being Eaten By Great White Sharks

Special thanks goes out to singer-songwriter Frederick Ingram for the use of his music for the original Horror Movie Podcast theme and composer Kagan Breitenbach for the use of his classical arrangement of Fred’s song for our updated theme.

Jay of the Dead’s links:
Follow Jay of the Dead and Horror Movie Podcast Official Twitter
Horror Movie Podcast Official Facebook
Jay of the Dead covers new releases in theaters on Movie Podcast Weekly
And if you’d like to e-mail Jay of the Dead with a good Beastly Freaks recommendation: BeastlyFreaks@gmail.com

Wolfman Josh’s links:
Follow Josh on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @IcarusArts
Horror Movie Podcast Official Instagram @HorrorMovieCast
Josh covers the Monsters Universe, new and classic, on UniversalMonstersCast.com
Follow UMC on Twitter @MonstersCast
Josh covers streaming online movies on MovieStreamCast.com
Follow MSC on Twitter @MovieStreamCast
Like MSC on Facebook

Dr. Shock’s links:
Dave writes daily movie review on DVDinfatuation.com
Follow Dave on Twitter @DVDinfatuation
Like Dave’s DVD Infatuation, now on Facebook
Dave cover the Monsters Universe, new and classic, on UniversalMonstersCast.com
Dr. Shock also appears on another horror podcast: Land of the Creeps

Dr. Walking Dead’s links:
Order Kyle’s new book! How Zombies Conquered Popular Culture: The Multifarious Walking Dead in the 21st Century
Order Kyle’s previous books American Zombie Gothic and Triumph of The Walking Dead
Follow Kyle on Twitter @DrWalkingDead

You can always contact us by e-mailing HorrorMoviePodcast@gmail.com. Or you can call and leave us a voice mail at: (801) 382-8789. And you can leave us a comment in the show notes for this episode.

If you like Horror Movie Podcast, please subscribe and leave us a review in iTunes. It really helps our visibility. You can also subscribe on GooglePlay or Stitcher. If you want to support the show even more, you can do so by becoming a patron of Movie Podcast Network and subscribing to our “Special Features” episodes by paying a small fee to get at least one bonus release each month through our official Movie Podcast Network Patreon page!

Note: The Movie Podcast Network episodes are bonus podcasts for our financial supporters. MPN does not replace Horror Movie Podcast and, further, HMP will always remain free.

Thanks for listening, and join us again Friday after next for HORROR MOVIE PODCAST!

45 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 122: Shark Attack! — Part 1

  1. Clockwise, from top left: Life-saver Keoni Bowthorpe and his life-saving paddle, Shark attack survivor Colin Cook and the prosthetic swimming leg he designed, and Keoni receiving the Carnegie Hero Award, with his family, in Honolulu.

    • Bro, that story was horrifying. That guy is a freaking hero. It’s situations like that that make me wonder what type of person I would be in that type of situation. Kind of depresses me to think I’d be the type of person to let someone die. Then again, I really, really don’t want to die by shark :/

    • Great inspiring and scary story! We watch movies about shark attacks, but I’m sure the real thing is beyond anything we’d see on screen. Just listening to this story put my stomach in knots.

  2. Not to nit-picky josh, but if you listen closely the quote is “you’re gonna need a bigger boat.”

  3. Great first half of a Podcast! I love Sharks and watch shows, movies about them all the time. I can’t wait for Shark Week! Everybody always talks about how you would want to die. Most times you get in your sleep, or drowning wouildn’t be that bad. For me, as bad as it would be to go through, I’ve always wanted to get eaten by a Shark. You always hear how did they die? You get Cancer, Heart Attack and other illnesses, but no one ever says they got eaten by a Shark! To me, as sick as it may be, eaten by a Shark all the way! Anyway, not much else that I could add to what you guys have talked about so far. Good work!
    Another comment I wanted to make was I saw It Stains the Sands Red the other day. Great Zombie movie! It’s hard to say that nowadays, but it really is a good movie. It’s funny, has blood and scares in it also. I just like how it breaks the norm, bad things happen to good people. This is the opposite bad things happen to bad people in this, but funny thing is, you don’t want them to. You sympathize with the main character so much you want to see everything turn out for her. It will be in my Top 10 for the year for sure. The nickname ‘Smalls’ has a new meaning now.

  4. So first off, I watch Jaws every September around Labor Day. It’s been a 10 year tradition of mine. It’s almost like my “goodbye” to summer. I’m only half way through the episode though…

    And there is a 13% chance I will make it to the meetup! Flight and hotel from my neck of the woods is under 500$. The only thing is I’ll be traveling solo and have to work on my husband that it’s totally cool to go hang out with a bunch of random strangers that I met online.

    • Labor Day is a great idea. After our horror on the 4th of July episode (which I highly recommend) I started watching it in the 4th, but there is so much going on that day and nobody else is really into it. Switching to Labor Day might be the way to go.

      Hope you can make it. Liz (Station from The Sci-Fi Podcast) got a discounted group rate for us at two different Marriot locations, just FYI. Not exactly sure how that compares to the other less-expensive hotel rates, but you might want to check those out. Links at IndieGoGo. And I know Joel (from Retro Movie Geek) got a good deal on AirBnB.

  5. Greetings from below! This is the first comment I post. I’ve been listening to HMP for 6 months now. I am trying to catch up on all episodes starting from the beginning.
    I can’t wait to see Phelps race a shark, thanks wolfman for sharing that info. I’m interested to see how that will play out. My money is on the shark.
    The way you guys discuss Open Water and Frozen has got me very interested in checking them out, even though I don’t consider myself a fan of “slow/situational/little action” movies, but i will approach these with an open mind.
    I’m bummed I can’t go to the meet up in Utah :(
    Thank you guys for making my work days go by smoother. Keep up the great work!

  6. hey all. Great episode all. I will not gover over how much I love Jaws, but suffice to say it is in my top 5 movies, regardless of genres. it is my personal opinion that Robert Shaw’s portrayal of Quint is my favourite film character supporting acting in American film. How he didn’t get nominated for an Oscar mystifies me, but that is for another discussion. Perhaps the panel can discuss this on another episode (although tough to argue DeNiro winning). nyways, this is my background in my love for the shark attack type movies.
    I know there are so many shark films that trying to list them all would be a labourious task, if not boring, lol. One film I wanted to make note of was The Last Shark, aka Great White. It is a 1981 italian shark attack film trying to cash in on Jaws popularity. It is set in an east coast town, that relies on tourism and its beach for income (sound familiar?). Lots of surfers, a determined townsperson who doubles as amateur shark hunter, and a gruff experienced sailor (Vic Morror) who provides his experience to help find the shark. This film combines elements of both Jaws 1 and 2, with a much lesser budget (it uses some stock shark footage for scenes) and has an ending eerily similar to Jaws. It is not a great film, but for what it is, it is a decent watch. There is one of the funniest death scenes I have ever seen involving a helicopter, and the “suspense” is enough to keep you watching. I give it 5/10 but a must watch for shark film lovers, italian grindhouse cinefiles, or those who like b films that rip off big budget Hollywood films.
    I also like the sound of the We Deal in Lead podcast (obviously taken from The Magnificent Seven. This naturally would lead to a crossover show involving western movies with horror elements, or vice versa. There have been many over the years, such as Curse of the Living Dead and Curse of The Coffin, to the more recent Gallow Walkers and Bone Tomahawk. Just a thought for the future.
    Anyways, great show and I look forward to the next one!

    • There’s a Universal horror-western film called Curse of the Undead (1959) that I like. I’m not particularly a western fan but the new podcast does sound neat. Maybe they’ll do a horror-western crossover episode with HMP. (hint, hint)

  7. Hi HMP!

    I’m new here. Slowly going through the archives and picking out the episodes that rouse my interest.

    I had to skip ahead to Ep. 122 as Jaws is my all time favourite horror movie. Living in Australia shark attacks are a grim reality of Summer which I’m sure is partly responsible for Jaws topping my list.

    I’ve always liked to classify Jaws as a slasher film. All of the trappings are there; opening kill, isolated setting, POV shots, theme music, Crazy Ralph, final girl, final standoff. The list goes on.

    Thanks for all your great work. You have me absolutely captivated with every episode.

  8. Wolfman, your review of Avalanche Sharks had me laughing harder than I’ve laughed while listening to a review in a long while. Sounds pretty godawful but worth an alcohol-fueled roasting MST3K session. I was shocked that you gave it a 0, as I thought you had said previously that just a film existing earns it a 0.5. Was it really that bad enough to change your mind?

    No way was the episode a failure! I was thoroughly entertained, even though I probably won’t see any of the movies you discussed. (I’ve already seen The Shallows and Open Water.) I appreciated the “campfire tale” from Wolfman’s friend, and Dr. Shock’s discussion of the accidental death during the filming of Shark.

    By the way, Hammer’s new podcast Streaming Horror Society will be releasing some written reviews for Shark Week, including yours truly covering The Reef, which I would say is the best shark movie I’ve seen after Jaws. It’s available on Shudder. I believe someone else is covering Avalanche Sharks as well, so it will be interesting to see how that review compares to Wolfman’s.

    As to your thoughts on Sharknado – I also didn’t think it was bad as I thought it would be, but I wasn’t that entertained, either. It was actually more serious than I expected, which I think took down its entertainment value, and made it feel uneven – I wanted it to be more absurd and over-the-top than it was. I have no desire to watch any of the sequels.

  9. Just a random aside, but if anyone’s in the mood for a fun, low-budget film then I’d recommend checking out Patchwork. It’s not going to win any awards, but I found it thoroughly entertaining.

    • thanks for the recommendation. I just watched the apocalyptic/survival/sci fi 2017 movie called Bokeh. Well shot, well acted, worth a watch, although not sure it would be considered a pure horror.

  10. Jason, just to clarify, I don’t think using either Letterboxd or IMDb needs to be exclusive from the other. I think both services are complimentary, and I use them side-by-side all the time. In fact, their respective apps live next to each other on my phone’s homescreen. I use Letterboxd to document, rate and (sometimes) comment on what I see, mantain topical movie lists and a watchlist. More importantly, though, I use it to stay connected with my movie loving buddies – I can see what they’ve seen and what they think of different movies, as well as interact with them on their thoughts on movies and lists. IMDb, however, I use for more in depth movie information, as well as to confirm certain information like year of release.

    So, basically, I use IMDb as a movie Wikipedia, whereas Letterboxd is more like a movie Twitter.

    • I’m pretty much the same. In the history of using IMDb, I think I rated maybe 4 things? Yet, it’s a great resource to quickly looking up what that one person’s damn name is from that one movie that you freakin’ can’t remember right now. On the other hand, Letterboxd has been great at allowing a more organized recording of what I watch.

  11. Like many people have already commented here, I love sharks and everything having to do with sharks – shark movies, shark documentaries, Shark Week, etc. The problem I’ve always had with shark movies, though, is that there really aren’t many good “serious” ones out there. If you like schlocky, goofy movies then you’re set for life on shark movies. But serious ones, not so much.

    Regarding 47 Meters Down, that is a movie that frustrated me so much. There were many sequences of true suspense that had me holding my breath, but it’s all wrapped up in a pretty mediocre movie. Ultimately, I landed on a 6/10 for my rating and think it’s worth seeing at least once, but that’s probably overrating the film a little bit because of those handful of successful, suspenseful moments.

  12. Obligatory call for lists… let’s see everyone’s top 5 favorite shark movies. Here are mine:

    1. Jaws
    2. Jaws 2
    3. Jaws 3
    4. Open Water
    5. The Shallows
    HM. Deep Blue Sea (because, Sam Jackson and LL Cool J)

    • Why so serious?

      1. Jaws
      2. Jaws 3
      3. The Shallows
      4. Deep Blue Sea
      5. Open Water
      6. Jaws 2
      7. Shark Night
      8. Bait 3D
      9. Red Water
      10. Cyclone

        • Is there even anyone who wouldn’t have Jaws as their #1 in their top ten shark movies? I’m actually starting to feel guilty about not having it in my top 10 of all time. It’s just so tiring to see the same 10 movies on everyone’s lists, that’s why I don’t care about not including modern movies on my list. How long do I have to wait until everyone deems what everyone already knows to be a classic, a classic? Did that make sense? It did in my head. Anyway, the point is, why restrict oneself? Let everyone run rampant with their picks and we’ll see more interesting lists and even discover new movies in the process.

          • Yeah, I never got the “it’s too soon to include that movie on a list” argument. I mean, I guess I understand it, but I don’t subscribe to it… at least not for personal lists. Maybe… MAYBE… if you’re trying to make a semi-objective list of the “greatest of all-time,” I can see merit in letting movies marinate for a period of time before comparing them against long-established films. But even then I think it’s a shaky argument because, like you said, if we already know it’s going to be a classic then why exclude it.

            For personal lists, though, I think it’s just silly not to include new movies because of some arbitrary “needs to have been released for X number of years” rule.

              • Reading your comment from Episode 7 has me thinking the main reason why modern films are rarely included in top tens is because there’s not much of an emotional attachment to them yet.

                How is a modern movie supposed to compete with the horror movie that made you a fan in the first place, the one you watched with friends or family when you were a kid, or the first movie you ever bought with your own money? It takes time to form a connection with a new movie especially when being a good movie isn’t good enough as we’re able to see plenty of good new movies.

                • you make a good point, Sal, about modern movies not having the sentimental attachment a classic might, but sometimes sentimentality blurs how good a movie may be. There may be a movie you have in your earlier years that you rate highly that once you rewatch it you realize may not be quite as good. That’s not to say it isn’t important to you, just that it may not be as well done as you remembered/hoped. I had this happen recently when a horror I watched in high school many times I rewatched, Cannibal Girls, and realized cinematically it was not nearly as good as I remembered. It will always hold a special place in my movie memories, but will not be making any top lists. Conversely, newer films or films you watch with no knowledge of can be instant classics. It is usually a gut feel for me. I knew immediately after having recently watched Murder Party for the first time that i was a keeper. It may not be on an all time list, but I would have no hesitation putting it on a top list, although I would need a second and third viewing to confirm it. I knew almost immediately after watching Martyrs it was a classic and is on all of my lists. Anyways, loving the discussions. A great topic.

                  • But Bill, can’t what you’re describing about older movies happen also with newer movies that make a strong impact on your first viewing? In other words, after a few years have passed, might your opinion on it change?

            • I agree that there does not need to be a waiting period to make a person’s top movie list, like a waiting period for an athlete trying to make a hall of fame. If you like it, add it. I am always looking for new movies to add to my all time list. Personally, the newest film on my all time horror list is Martyrs, but I really enjoyed Train to Busan which probably makes my top 20, both for its uniqueness and the strong story/writing.
              As for rating Jaws highly, I have no reservations doing so. It is the gold standard for the genre, and is in my top 5 personal list of all time movies. The story is engrossing, the characters memorable, and the ending unforgettable. Never be embarrassed for liking movie. Is my thoughts anyway.

            • I guess I’m going to be the contrarian as far as lists go, but it personally frustrates me to see newer movies on “best of all time” lists, unless you’re talking about a very specific type/subgenre of movie that doesn’t have much competition. For example, I think it’s fine to put The Shallows or 47 Meters Down in a top 5 or 10 shark movies list, but not necessarily in a top 10/20/50/100 horror movies of all time list.

              The reason being, as I explained in my reply to Dino’s question about the Paste Magazine list, that I look to such lists for films that are well-known to the horror community, have historical importance, and have exerted influence on future films. That Paste list includes The Babadook, It Follows, The Witch, Get Out, and Goodnight Mommy – all way too new in my thinking, especially Get Out, which just came out this year!

              It depends on what the purpose of the list is. If it’s just your personal favorites, that’s different. But if your intention is for a sort of reference point for viewers – something for newer fans to work their way through, or even seasoned veterans to catch any classics they may have passed over – I think it’s a disservice to include things that are too new. If you want to get the allusions to older films made by newer films – or understand what people are talking about when other fans refer to them – you need to know which films are most likely to be referenced by others.

              Of course, what’s “too new”? That line is more or less arbitrary, but I think 10 years is a reasonable timeframe to see if a movie stands the test of time and whether it starts to exert its influence.

              So while there might be “instant classics,” they’re going to push out other movies that are also worth seeing, and will be beneficial to acquiring a shared set of reference points. For newer films, you can always go through top ten of the year lists, and there are also lists for post-2000 and post-2010 films as well.

    • 1. Jaws
      2. The Reef
      3. Open Water
      4. Bait 3D
      5. idk…Open Water 2? The Shallows?

      The top four are easy since they’re ones I actually enjoy. Starting with 5th and below is a lot more difficult as I can’t say any other shark movies stand out to me. Can I pick Zombie or Finding Nemo for their shark scenes? haha

      • The Reef is one that I always glossed over, but your high praise made me take a closer look… and it looks really solid. I’m going to check it out soon. Thanks, buddy.

        • Even if you end up not being as high on it as I am, I’m sure you’ll enjoy The Reef. It does its best to be a serious shark movie without relying on cheesiness to draw interest. At the same time, unlike with Open Water, there’s more going on than just two people hanging out in the water.

  13. There are two new theatrical horror releases in the US today – Killing Ground and The Gracefield Incident. One looks really promising, the other looks awful.

  14. FYI, I just read that Strand will be distributing The Transfiguration on VOD August 8th. It’s a drama-horror vampire flick set in modern day NYC. I caught it back in early April at the Cleveland International Film Festival, and it’s currently in the 8th-15th range on my 2017 horror film rankings. Highly recommended for fans of slow-burn indie drama-horror films.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *