Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 126: Annabelle: Creation (2017) and Killing Ground (2017) and The Belko Experiment (2017) and Be My Cat: A Film for Anne (2016) and Remembering Tobe Hooper

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This is HORROR MOVIE PODCAST Episode 126, another one of our famous “Frankensteinian” episodes, where your hosts Jay of the Dead, Dr. Shock and Wolfman Josh bring you reviews of several new horror films, including Annabelle: Creation (2017) and Killing Ground (2017)  and The Belko Experiment (2017) and A Dark Song (2017)  and Hounds of Love (2017) and Open Water 3: Cage Dive (2017)and Be My Cat: A Film for Anne (2016). The Wolf also brings you a review of The Void (2017) in his specialty segment “Screaming Online,” for anyone looking for a little Netflix and Kill this weekend. And we’d be remiss to let this week go by without remembering legendary icon of horror cinema, writer-director Tobe Hooper, who has recently passed away.

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I. Introduction
— Acknowledgement of the real-life horrors and suffering of the world community

[ 0:08:23 ] II. Remembering Tobe Hooper

Remembering Tobe Hooper
We’ll all miss Tobe Hooper, but don’t miss Tobe Hooper’s classic horror films like PoltergeistSalem’s Lot, Lifeforce and, of course, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Rest in power, Sir.

[ 0:31:58 ] III. Other Notable Horror News
— Listener feedback from our two-part Stephen King episodes
— Bloody Disgusting’s article on the October 2017 film line-up
— Horror trailer talk: LORE Podcast trailer, Leatherface trailer, The Monster Project trailer
— New Night of the Living Dead 4K Restoration

What’s coming up on Horror Movie Podcast and Movie Podcast Network
— Next on HMP: Creepy Killer Clowns and It (1990) vs. It (2017) with guest A.M. Novak
— MPN Meetup in Salt Lake City on October 14, 2017
— 31 Days of Halloween on Horror Movie Podcast.com

— George A. Romero and the farcical Hollywood Walk of Fame

A Cake Wolf recommendation:
[ 1:12:48 ] IV. Feature Review: BE MY CAT: A FILM FOR ANNE (2016) (Thanks, Cake Wolf!)
Jay of the Dead = 8 ( Must-see / Buy it! )
Wolfman Josh = 6.5 ( Low-priority Rental )
Dr. Shock = 9 ( Must-see / Buy it! )

[ 1:58:17 ] V. Feature Review: THE BELKO EXPERIMENT (2017)
Jay of the Dead = 7 ( Rental )
Wolfman Josh = 7.5 ( Rental )
Dr. Shock = 8 ( High-priority Rental )

— Farewell to Dr. Shock for the night. Check out the Mad Doctor here:
Website: DVDinfatuation.com
Twitter: @DVDinfatuation
FB: Facebook.com/DVDinfatuation

Other excellent Horror podcasts:
Universal Monsters Cast
Land of the Creeps

[ 2:27:25 ] VI. Review: A DARK SONG (2017)
Wolfman Josh = 7.5 ( Strong Rental )

[ 2:34:02 ] VII. Mini Review: ANNABELLE: CREATION (2017)
Jay of the Dead = 7 ( Theater / Rental )

[ 2:44:53 ] VIII. Feature Review: THE TRANSFIGURATION (2017)
Wolfman Josh = 7.5 ( Strong Rental )

[ 2:54:37 ] IX. Review: KILLING GROUND (2017)
Jay of the Dead = 9.5 ( Must-see / Buy it! )

[ 3:06:12 ] X. Review: HOUNDS OF LOVE (2017)
Wolfman Josh = 7.5 ( Rental )

[ 3:14:17 ] XI. Mini Review: OPEN WATER 3: CAGE DIVE (2017)
Jay of the Dead = 3 ( Avoid )

[ 3:22:17 ] XII. Wolfman’s Screaming Online: THE VOID (2017)
Wolfman Josh = 7.5 ( Stream it! )

[ 3:28:57 ] XIII. HMP PSAs (Public Service Announcements)
— Brimstone (2017)
— Sleight (2017)

SPOILERS: [ 3:32:05 ] XIV. Bonus: Q&A with writer-director Michael O’Shea (Contains spoilers for “The Transfiguration”)
— This recording came to HMP courtesy of listener and friend-of-the-show Dino Ticinelli, who attended a screening of writer-director Michael O’Shea’s film, “The Transfiguration” (2017). There was an Q&A afterward in which the audience asked O’Shea questions about the film. Dino was able to record a portion of that interview for us. Thank you, Dino! Warning: This Q&A contains major plot spoilers for “The Transfiguration.”

[ 3:42:56 ] XV.
Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending
— Thank you to Vicious Victor!
— Thanks to Adam for purchasing a “Ghost Ticket” for the 2017 MeetUp

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51 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 126: Annabelle: Creation (2017) and Killing Ground (2017) and The Belko Experiment (2017) and Be My Cat: A Film for Anne (2016) and Remembering Tobe Hooper

  1. I really enjoyed your Stephen King talk over the last few weeks and I can’t wait for your IT coverage. I’m reading the book at the moment and seriously – it’ some of the most gripping entertainment in any media. One of the first horror books I ever read and a fascinating story about friendship and the horrors of life, personified by a Clown of all things. So good.

    Haven’t even seen it because in Europe the movie doesn’t start until september 28th…I’m glad it’s such a success in America, though. I hope more people are going to read the book now.

    So Killing Ground is one to watch. Judging from press pictures it almost looks too disturbing…I haven’t read any synopsis but being the father of a young daughter probably doesn’t help, right?

  2. Remember when I said the 12 Feet Deep was the most excited I’ve been about a lineup of movies since the Nightcrawler episode of MPW? This is the most excited I’ve been about a lineup of movies since I was born

    • Agreed. I am super excited about this episode. Can’t wait to give it a listen on my way home from work today. I adored Annabelle: Creation so I’m excited to see what the guys say. I bet Jay didn’t like it since it is a paranormal film and doesn’t involve some people and a doll stuck on a ski lift or in an ATM booth. Kidding. Love ya Jay.

    • I just read the description which lists all the featured movies and oh my god this is going to do me until the afterlife. This is the first year I’ve actively kept up with almost all new releases and it is serving me well. I am so excited for top 10 season

      • Are you on letterboxd, Graham? If not, I’d recommend checking it out. A lot of us are on there and it’s a cool way to keep up with, rate, list, share, and recommend everything we’re watching. It’s sort of the social media equivalent to IMDB. I know many of the frequent listeners already have lists up for everyone to see. I’m keeping mine private because I like to be the wild card :)P

        • And by the way, letterboxd is in no way a substitute to the comment boards of HMP. It’s just something totally different and complimentary.

          • I was keeping track of the movies I’ve watched this year on letterboxd early this year, but I wasn’t sure of what to use it for beyfor nd that, so iI stopped by the end of January.

            I know a lot of HMP listeners are on it though, and now that I’ve become more active on the comment boards I think I’ll catch up with letterboxd. I’ve been keeping a list elsewhere of every film I’ve watched this year since January 1st, so when I get a chance I’ll plug those in. I’ve been looking forward to seeing how many films of each genre and each year I’ve watched come December, so letterboxd will be a cool way to do that, no doubt.

  3. Josh, I’m very interested in watching The Video Diary of Ricardo Lopez, not out of morbid reasons, but because I find that particular topic fascinating. To be honest, after watching a few minutes of one of his tapes, I got really scared of going into it alone. The footage looks very intense and like you, I find real life horror to be extremely unsettling. So, I’m already making arrangements to have a friend watch it with me and walk me through it. She’s an LPC and I usually go to her when I have questions about topics that are far beyond my reach. Anyway, I’m excited and scared haha. Will you send me a link to the version you watched? I’m not sure if there are is a definitive version or if everyone’s editing their own. If you don’t want to post the link here, you can DM it to me on Twitter. Thanks, bro :*

  4. A lot of interesting films to watch out for here.

    I personally loved Annabelle Creation! Great scares. Perhaps dragged a little in the middle. Really enjoyed it on the big screen though. I have given some harsh criticism to the Conjuring 2 and Annabelle in the past. However, I’m thoroughly back on-board with this universe. Not sure how excited I am with a Crooked Man film…

    Curiosity also got the better of me and went investigating into Ricardo Lopez. Yup, a few articles later and a gif of the final moments and I think I’ll pass. I’m a massive horror fan, but that just seems to be exploitating mental illness. I can see a lot of fragile people idolise Lopez. The fact it’s available through youtube is the real horror.

    • P.s The Void didn’t do it for me. Nice throwback to Carpenter and the effects I appreciated. Convoluted and boring were the adjectives I used on Letterboxd at the time.

      The Belko Experiment was more enjoyable than expected.

  5. So I watched Be My Cat: A Film for Anne (2016) last night and yeah…. very strange and intriguing film. I have to admit it made me uncomfortable and I can understand Josh’s comparison to the Video Diaries documentary. I read the poor gentleman’s Wikipedia article and decided I didn’t want to see any of the images or the film. I suggest anyone interested in the story read the Wikipedia entry but avoid the movie. Overall I thought Be My Cat was entertaining and made me uncomfortable in a way few films do nowadays.

    Jay – I decided to give The Corpse of Anna Fritz a chance and it’s twisted but fun. Reminded me of Dead Girl (2008) which I feel is really underrated. Very good recommendation.

    I am very interested in watching The Killing Ground. It looks brutal. Haven’t had a chance to watch the Belko Experiment.

    Annabelle: Creation is one of my favorite films of the year. Such a fun movie to see in theaters and I am really enjoying the expansion of the Conjuring Universe. Janice was absolutely adorable and I felt true compassion for her after working with seniors who suffered from polio when they were younger. Just a fun supernatural film. I will take Jay’s rating as a 9/10 since he isn’t a big supernatural guy.

    Great Frankensteinian (spelling?) episode. Can’t wait for the Halloween madness!

  6. Some great recommendations this episode. I am Australian and I can confirm that the Aussie horror movies don’t get much love here.
    I have recently been watching as much Aussie horror as I can. I have seen Primal, The Loved Ones, Turkey Shoot, Razorback, Long Weekend, Rogue, Black Water, Charlie’s Farm and Road Games.
    I can’t wait to hear the review of Brimstone on Movie Podcast Weekly. I hesitated to bring it up here as it is not a horror movie, but if you are a horror fan and love westerns you should give it a go.

    • Andrew, have you seen Hounds of Love (2016 though I think it counts as a 2017 wide release)? It’s kinda messed up but it’s an Australian film and I liked it. Also, if you liked The Loved Ones, check out The Devil’s Candy (2017) by the same director, Sean Byrne. It’s not really an Australian film, though.

      • I am planning on watching Hounds of Love this weekend with my wife (she likes horror movies too). I watched Killing Ground last night and Jay was right, it was pretty brutal. I have the Devil’s Candy on my list of movies to watch too.

  7. New listener to the show here! Long time horror movie fan and I have to say it’s really awesome to find such a well put together and articulate podcast dedicated exclusively to horror films.

    While I have to admit I was in total disagreement over your thoughts about Alien: Covenant (I thought it was an abysmal entry to the franchise) I’m really enjoying going through the latest and older episodes; it feels like I’m sitting at a table with my friends, chatting about films.

  8. In regards to Wolfman’s The Void review. Thank you for finally reviewing this film! “If you like Carpenter, Lovecraft, and Phantasm, this film is for you.” This is a perfect description for this film. I feel like the filmmakers read my thoughts after every horror movie I watch and used them to make this movie. My favorite form of horror is Lovecraftian horror, cosmic horror of the unknown. The terror of the indifferent and inconceivable nature of the great unknown around us. It speaks to many different horror genres and sits at the root of horror for myself. There are very few solid film examples of Lovecraftian horror in a pure sense. Examples include Alien (the creature itself is very Lovecraftian in its inconceivable/ indifferent nature), The Thing, Hellraiser (a greater knowledge driving people mad), and many of the films of Guillermo del Toro. It is very difficult to do well as it can easily become silly (as Lovecraft was want to do in his writing). But The Void uses core elements and tropes of Lovecraftian literature (cultists, unspeakable acts too horrid to describe, cosmic knowledge driving men mad in their quest for transcendence, beings whose forms make no sense to our minds, trans-dimensional space, awkward humor, and of course TENTACLE MONSTERS!!!) in the most effective way I’ve seen to date. I love this film! It will be tough to find another film to take the top spot in this year’s top 10 for me. SPOILER ALERT! I want to draw attention to may favorite scene where Deputy Carter finds his wife has given birth to an otherworldly tentacle monster and proceeds to destroy it with an axe as the sound effects are muted and the camera reveals only the silhouette of this act in the door window. This scene jumped right from the pages of Lovecraft’s best writing as it reveals the monster in a way that still prevents us as the audience from understanding exactly what we are seeing and implies that the act of destroying it and his wife is too horrifying an act to be seen. I also think this scene implies an intimacy and isolation to Deputy Carter in saying that even the audience cannot be present with him in this moment. Obviously 10/10 for me.

  9. The Belko Experiment is the 2017 horror that I most feel the need to re-watch before the end of the year for my top ten list. I found it to be an incredibly satisfying watch due to being so balls to the wall levels of fun and even being unpredictable as to who would survive. I’m looking at the rating and the currently placement on my top ten and how it’s higher up than some other highly regarded films of the year. I’m not sure if the substance is still there that the appeal will still be there upon rewatch.

    A great cinema experience though.

    • Belko’s high on my list still. It is a great cinema experience. Films I’ve seen in the theater tend to creep up higher on my end of the year list. Plus this one seems to have a lot of rewatchability.

  10. Hey, I’ve been a listener for about 12 months now – i absolutely love you guys! Great episode – I wish killing ground had a uk release – it looks fantastic! For me The Void is one of the most overrated films in recent years… It felt like montage of all my favourite films, crammed into a poorly written script… practical effects don’t make up for inept direction… rant over. Just on a separate point, have you considered reviewing The Evil Within? It has a really interesting story behind it and the film has some brilliant moments (although overall it’s not exceptional)…. Keep up the good work, I honestly LOVE listening to you guys – Marcus from England

  11. I felt like Annabelle: Creation was really good. It took time to set up the space of the movie and like Jay I was excited every time we would get to see new areas and eerie items (Like the stair climber) that were obviously going to be used later in the film when the horror ramps up.

    There was at least one time when the CGI, I thought, looked like garbage. If you’ve seen it then you probably know what I’m talking about. I fell out of my trace and looked around the theater to see if anyone else was aware of it. They didn’t seem phased though. I’d give it a solid 8/10.

    I’ve thought about watching the Belko Experiment, but I’m bored with the concept. I must confess that the battle royale to the death theme is not one of my favorites. But y’all are saying it’s good and potentially top ten material. Damn you all. I’ll try and watch it.

    • The constant introduction of new “objects” that you knew were going to be scares was one of the best parts. I remember thinking “Oh crap that is going to come to life next soon!”. There was one in particular that I think deserves it’s own film. Gimme another Conjuring universe film with “the thing in the barn”.

      I also agree that the whole game or battle royale thing is just not for me right now. Maybe it’s because of all the Netflix films I’ve watched recently like “Would You Rather” – “Exam” – “Circle”. I will eventually watch The Belko Experiment but just not in the mood for that kinda film right now.

  12. I love these Frankensteinian episodes where you cover a lot of new releases. I have comments to share on all of them… later, though. For now, I’ll say that I was surprised by Josh’s comment at the beginning of the Cage Dive review about the Horror Metropolis review of Open Water 2 because I feel the same way. I don’t know what it is about that review, but it is one of my favorite moments in any iteration of TWHMP, HM and HMP. I can actually remember where I was when I listened to it – I was in NYC at the time… it was early evening and I had just left the Sony Experience Store, walking under some scaffolding on the Upper East Side. I actually had to stop right there on the sidewalk to listen because I was so engrossed in the conversation.

    By the way, for any listeners who haven’t gone back and listened to Jason’s back catalog of horror shows, I highly recommend doing that. It’s well worth the time.

  13. Jay, I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts on Killing Ground. I was just as excited as you when Kagan brought it up on the Sundance episode, but when I finally got around to watching it, I felt disappointed. It was a well made movie technically, and I was engrossed the entire time, but after it ended I was thinking, “But what is it trying to say?” The movie could be summarized in a sentence or two, you know? That’s all the entire plot is and I wanted to like it more.

    After hearing what you said about its portrayal of heroism and its unflinching verisimilitude, to use one of your words, I am looking back on the movie more fondly. I’m disappointed in myself that it didn’t resonate with me on that level at the time, and I’m not sure a rewatch would elicit that response because, well, the plot is very simple (though the narrative structure is neat), but I do believe your review made me think of the film in a different way and I’m always grateful for that.

    On the contrary, Wolfman, I’m glad you were on a different wavelength than I was when watching The Transfiguration. Personally, I didn’t catch on to the idea that Milo might not be a vampire until just before the final monologue — and even then I was floored at how it ended.

    Remember when you talked about a friend of yours, I think it was Michael Stephenson, who was making a film about a kid who kills vampires? And the plot twist that you mentioned? The Transfiguration made me similar to the way I felt when I heard you describe that idea. I thought to myself that I’ve never seen anything like this before. Even if The Transfiguration hadn’t ended the way it did, it still would have been new to me. I thought it was novel enough that this vampire story was taking place in a well-lit inner city. It was like Let the Right One in, my favourite vampire film, with even fewer vampire tropes! And then I understood why that was the case and it really messed me up.

    I was so invested in Milo’s story regardless of the vampire plot thread. I love realistic indie dramas and that’s what I got and I’m rambling but man, this movie was so good. Immediately after watching I thought it overtook Raw as my favourite movie of the year. It’s been a few months now and I now plan to watch both films again before the end of the year as they were both such personal experiences for me, but I have to say, I’m glad I’m such a slow learner, and despite loving listening to your review, I’m glad I didn’t hear it before watching the movie.

    Just out of curiosity, what was the scene when you thought the filmmakers quelled the ambiguity? The basement scene? I was so enthralled the entire time because I knew this movie was redefining the vampire genre in a post-post-modern way, so when the basement scene happened, I just thought it was another quirk of the rules or something. I’m not explaining myself very well, but my point is I’m dumb and I’m proud.

    My eight-year-old nephew and I took a two hour long road trip to see Annabelle Creation. Dude loves horror movies. He watched the whole thing through his fingers with his knees up to his chest. It was awesome. He said he loved it. I’ve taken him to the movies so often recently that after the mid credits scene, he looked behind him to make sure everyone else was leaving because we’re the only ones who “appreciate the filmmakers”. We played I Spy with the names of the grips and stuff, and when the after credits scene came on, we were the only ones left in the theatre. He wouldn’t stop talking about it the rest of the night. I can’t help but at least give Annabelle an honourable mention come the end of the year. It was a blast.

    Be My Cat is the only film you guys talked about on the episode that I haven’t yet seen. It’s been on my watch list for a while because of its premise and terrifying poster. I was wondering when someone was going to bring up Ricardo Lopez. It’s the first thing I thought of when I heard of the film months ago. I’m honestly not sure I can handle Be My Cat because the idea is so terribly sad to me but I do want to give it a shot at some point. If I was curious enough to watch the Ricardo Lopez footage when I was fourteen years old, I can be curious enough to watch this, I suppose. The way you guys described gave me hope that the film is an honest exploration and not distasteful.

  14. Out of the two difficult to watch movies covered in this episode, I found Hounds of Love to be far more brutal than Killing Ground. I wouldn’t call Killing Ground to be an easy watch, but I found the build-up of what happened caused me to expect something far more intense than what we actually got. For Hounds of Love, there was one scene in particular where even though we don’t see anything, it’s awful to hear and likely the most difficult scene I’ve experienced this year.

    • I felt the same way about Killing Ground. It was pretty harsh but I didn’t feel invested in the characters. The bad guys were a bit dull to me as well as I didn’t really get their motivation. There just wasn’t anything fresh or new about it to me. It did things well but it didn’t feel very original.

      On the other hand Lake Bodom was a fresh look at the slasher genre and will likely make my top 10 this year. I hope they cover it as I think horror fans will love it. Lots of twists and turns but with relatable characters that make it all engrossing.

      I’ll be sure to check out Hounds of Love as well. Everyone seems to think it’s worth a watch.

  15. New listener here! I’ve always enjoyed horror movies, but it’s only recently that I’ve really started getting into them, and discovering this podcast a couple months ago was a big part of that.

    But that explains why I only just watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre a month or so ago, just a few weeks before Tobe Hooper passed, as it sadly turns out. I was happy to hear it tops Jay and Doctor Shock’s lists, because it was hands down one of the best movies I’ve ever seen, of any genre. Left me absolutely terrified even though I watched it at like 2:00 in the afternoon, in broad daylight.

    Anyway, love the podcast, and looking forward to when things start ramping up in October!

  16. Hi,

    For the record, while I love the themed episodes (especially when you go for 2 or 3), Frankenstein ones are still my favorite. So much to listen to and track down. Keep it up!

    By the way, guys, Hollywood Walk of Fame has never been a meaningful reflection of who is the most important in the entertainment industry; it was solely a tourist attraction since 1955 or so and the first 1500 names were chosen to “fill it out.” Since then, like all of Hollywood,whether or not you get honored depends on who you know and “what’s in it for me?”

    Nothing’s for free, and if you pony up the $35k, then sure, they’ll consider you. Ergo Chris Pratt before Romero, etc. The wiki page is pretty interesting. What’s also interesting is how everyone (including you guys) seemed to think it has some kind of higher integrity than a bunch of inserts on the scuzziest street in Hollywood!

    Cheers, Roger

  17. I’ve been off the boards lately but actively listening. This episode was such a treat! I am currently brewing my first little horror fan right now and have been doing a lot of resting. So, I have been watching way too many movies.

    Wolfman- I saw Dark Song soon after it came out and loved it. Just like you said great acting. These characters were so believable. 
    And I really enjoyed the trasfiguration too. I think the ending was perfect. I can’t wait to see more by these two. Their chemistry was perfect. Surprised you thought their acting was just fine. Both of these movies are the epitome of the movies that I love and cherish. I would probably rate them a bit higher Like 8s.

    Jay- Was not into Annabelle at all. I just didn’t really are about the backstory and so many of the same types of jump scares. Dunno, not impressed. Maybe a 6? I got pretty bored. I am watching the Killing Grounds right NOW because of your review. And, I love your reviews. You make things really intriguing. Thanks. “Mustache Twirling” LOL

    Hounds of love was way too brutal for me. I’m not really into the torture gore thing.

    I started watching the wrong “The Void” . Don’t make the same mistake I did!

  18. Great episode guys! I was excited that you gave some coverage to Annabelle: Creation. After finding the first entry mediocre at best, I was reserving my excitement going into this one. However, it turned out to be solid and even quite scary at times. I agree with Jay that the “Your soul!” line was ridiculous and corny. Also, anyone else tired of ghosts/demons/spirits vomiting black liquid into a character’s mouth to possess them? I feel like I’ve seen this way too many times in the past decade.

    Also, don’t know if any listeners live in the NJ/NY area, but I will be volunteering at the NJ Horror Con and Film Festival next week. If anyone is going, it would be great to meet up and say hey. Looks like it’ll be a pretty cool lineup of guests.


  19. So I took the kids to the pool this afternoon. My youngest daughter swims past me and says, “Look, Daddy! I float!” Oh that is just the wrong thing to say to someone who just saw “It”! Looking forward to hearing our hosts’ take on the film.

    I need a bit of assistance here. My wife and I are doing an 80s nostalgia trip, so of course I put on Monster Squad. She remembers another movie from the 80s in which a bunch of monsters assemble, and the parents get bewitched and go to a dance. Any thoughts?

  20. Finally getting caught up on some of these podcasts. Due to a hectic regular work schedule and taking on some free lance writing on the side has turned my life into nothing but work and very little time for entertainment. But I’m finally seeing some air so hopefully I’ll be caught up in the next week or so. Looking forward to whatever you are doing for October and the 31 days posts.

    As for this episode, I’ve seen Annabelle, Belko and the Void.

    Annabelle: Creation was a very nice surprise. I really didn’t like the first one and when I recently re-watched it I think I even liked it less. However, Creation is exactly what the first movie should’ve been and Sandberg is clearly a very gifted filmmaker. I actually liked this a little better than Lights Out. There are some very chilling moments and I loved how it started off as an interesting slow burn and then just kicks into a gear I wasn’t expecting for the last half of the movie. Also has a nice tie-in to the first film. 8/10.

    The Belko Experiment had it’s moments, but overall I just didn’t get into it. I found the tone to be all over the place, and while I can’t know for even a second how I would react in a situation like this I didn’t buy what just about anyone did especially the main character. It’s got a good production value and some good performances. 5/10

    The Void was a movie that I completely understand why other people like, but it just wasn’t my cup of tea. If you’re into gore this is definitely a movie for you, but it also has more to offer than that. The filmmakers are clearly fans of the genre and they give it their all. The movie just had a very been there done that kind of feel to it, and I’m just not a gorehound so that aspect of it didn’t really appeal to me either. I look forward to seeing what these guys come up with in the future though, but this is a 5/10.

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