Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 129: Child’s Play 2 (1990) and Child’s Play 3 (1991) – Franchise Review Part 2 of 4

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Sorry, Jack. Josh isn’t back. At least for this episode of HORROR MOVIE PODCAST. But HMP good guys Jay of the Dead and Dave “Dr. Shock” Becker are here to continue our Halloween season with Part 2 of our CHILD’S PLAY FRANCHISE REVIEW.

Just as we’ve done with the Halloween films back in October 2014, the Friday the 13th films back in February of 2015, and the Scream films and the Nightmare on Elm Street films back in the Fall of 2015, we’re giving you in-depth analysis of the entire Chucky franchise, all seven films, including the new release Cult of Chucky (2017). This time, Jay and Dave take on Child’s Play 2 (1990) and Child’s Play 3 (1991).

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SHOW NOTES:

I. Introduction
— Wolfman Josh is a no-show
— Check out Spooky Flix Fest on Retro Movie Geek
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— JOTD’s 10 Most Essential American Horror Movies That Best Represent the Genre


[ 00:04:26 ] II. Feature Review: CHILD’S PLAY 2 (1990)
Jay of the Dead = 6.5 ( Rental )
Wolfman Josh = 6.5 ( Rental )
Dr. Shock = 7 ( High-priority Rental )

Child Paly 2 BTS


[ 00:48:23 ] III. Feature Review: CHILD’S PLAY 3 (1991)

Jay of the Dead = 5.5 ( Rental )
Wolfman Josh = 7 ( Rental )
Dr. Shock = 6 ( Rental )

Child's Play 3 BTS

 


[ 01:33:57 ] IV. Coming Up This Month on HMP

[ 01:37:29 ] V. Listener voicemails
— Bonnie
— Jake
— Pennywise the Dancing Clown
— Adam and Laura
— The Gray Man


VI. Wrap-Up / Plugs / Ending


JOIN US NEXT FRIDAY ON HMP: In Episode 130 we will continue our Child’s Play Franchise Review with discussions of Bride of Chucky (1998) and Seed of Chucky (2004).


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18 thoughts on “Horror Movie Podcast Ep. 129: Child’s Play 2 (1990) and Child’s Play 3 (1991) – Franchise Review Part 2 of 4

  1. Haha the excitement and passion you guys have had talking about this franchise is a revelation! It has certainly made for some great episodes. Unfortunately, now the original trilogy is out of the way, it might be downhill from here. More franchise reviews, please.

    On a side note, for the 30th anniversary of Hellraiser, they are screening it in 35mm at my local theatre!! So tempted by this one.

  2. While I’m used to disagreeing with Jay of the Dead, this is one of the few times I’ve disagreed with Jay so much that I’m not sure where he’s coming from with his opinion.

    Child’s Play 2 and Freddy’s Revenge are similar? I mean, they are both the first sequels in popular horror franchises and uhh they both feature the English language, but that’s about where the similarities end.

    Freddy’s Revenge is a movie where if you remove it from the series, it wouldn’t affect anything in the series. It stands on its own for being a solo sequel to the original Nightmare. Freddy has new powers that he never uses again, Freddy looks different, every new character in Freddy’s Revenge is never shown again in the series, and the gay subtext adds an unique layer to the film that makes it truly different from even the rest of the Nightmare series.

    Meanwhile, although Child’s Play 2 drops the mystery of who is really behind the killings with the audience knowing from the beginning that Chucky is the killer, it more or less just continues where the second half of Child’s Play 1 left off. Besides Chucky, the main victim of the original movie returns and since Andy would then return for the third film, this sequel is essential to the overall story of the franchise.

    I don’t see any similarities between the two franchises. Comparing Child’s Play 2 to Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 or even Dream Warriors might be more fitting as they both carried on from the previous film while starting to add a bit of humor into the series. I applaud Jay for thinking outside of the box to try and compare two horror movies together, but I think he’s a bit off with this connection.

  3. In regards to Jay not buying into the idea that Kyle, given her past, would be so quick to warm up to Andy, I’d like to offer up a different theory. Jay’s 100% right, given her past, it makes sense that Kyle is standoffish and isn’t quick to warm up to people, but at the same time, being a child of the foster care service, perhaps that mindset causes her to view Andy as being someone who deserves sympathy? She may see a part of herself in Andy and because of that, is more likely to get close to him than if he was the biological child of the Simpsons.

    Not to mention, Andy is an adorable kid. Who could hate that little microchip?

  4. I think that the first two films in the Child’s Play series are the best. They are definitely my favorite. The first film is suspenseful and the audience is introduced to Chucky as a murderous doll with a clear purpose. (I like to ignore the voodoo thing). The second film seems like an extension of the first as Chucky again attempts to inhabit our young protagonist’s body. They compliment each other well.

    The third film is kind of underwhelming to me as it feels like the straight horror of Chucky and his voodoo power is becoming stale. I could skip it and be fine.
    But what I came here to really talk about is Bride of Chucky, which to me is an interesting oddity having come out two years after scream and bringing a lot of sass.

    **Spoilers**

    Chucky in many ways is the little brother to the Nightmare on Elm series as the protagonist begins on a journey of straight revenge and throughout the films becomes a self-parody (I see you there Jay). There are parallels to be made. Bride of Chucky is a departure from the suspense and horror-style of the earlier films. It glories Chucky as a villain you can cheer for and provides a very dark comedy that goes beyond some of the mouthy quips of earlier films. The film is self-aware and the main target of the film is likely horror hounds of the 80’s who would have to wait three more years for Jason X.

    It’s not a very good film and it definitely didn’t provide me with any scares, but it represents the hubris that we horror fans have for campy films with a good villain. Brad Dourif does a great job in his voice acting as usual. It feels like they really let him loose in this one. Jennifer Tilley was vivacious both pre and post transformation and carried the movie. Somehow it worked for me. And thank God they riffed on the voodoo, even if that scene made my eyes rolled right out of my damn head because it was stupid. Don’t get me started on the hotel/motel rubber rubbin…

    The kills were outlandish and the dolls were the star of the show. Chucky looked awesome with his iconic “new look”. I didn’t get attached to the human characters, but I doubt that really makes a difference. This is about badass dolls killing people. This is probably a 6.5/10, but if you love watching non-Jaws horror movies jump the shark then you got to watch it. Plus, there are a lot of nods to great horror series.

    Also, can we get a Charles Lee Ray prequel because he seems a lot more demented then the first Child’s Play lets on. They really try and talk him up a serial killer prior to the series.

  5. Another solid episode. I’m glad y’all are having some fun with this series even though you weren’t too excited about reviewing them in the beginning. I would say the end of Child’s Play 2 in the toy factory is some of the best horror camp the 80s have to offer. I could watch it over and over again!

    I was wondering if we were going to get information on Josh’s documentary in Alaska when it becomes available?

    Also wondering if y’all ever thought about a fantasy horror themed episode like Guillermo Del Toro’s films (esp Pan’s Labrynth). Or if y’all would cover some of the films of Hershel Gordon Lewis.

    Anyway keep up the awesome work!

    • I feel like we’ve covered a few HGLewis films, but we’ve definitely not done a retrospective or anything. Maybe we can think of his films, specifically, when planning future themed episodes. It should be done.

      We have, very recently, talked about doing a Fantasy-Horror themed episode. I think the idea came up when I reviewed The Lure and thought it would be fun to feature review films like Troll Hunter and Thale (and, of course, the work of GDToro). It’s definitely on the list!

      That Alaska doc is in post. I’m not sure when it will be done, but Im sure I’ll mention it, when it is released. It’s not this amazing adventure fillm that reflects my experience making it, though. It’s about the crossover of mental health and subsistence living in contemporary Native Alaskan culture, so not really aimed at this audience. Haha.

    • Fantasy Horror could be a great topic that is rarely ever talked about. With the amount of praise that the Child’s Play 2 finale is getting I will actually have to check it out. 80s camp is the best!

  6. I’m surprised by how much this series seems to hold up! Going into the Chucky franchise I was sure they would have become unwatchable by the third one, but the line still hasn’t been crossed. To be honest I’m hoping some of the coming ones will get there, just to hear the panel tear them apart. I also find that a really bad movie is actually more interesting that a mediocre one.

  7. The Child’s Play franchise is a great time to ask one of my oldest horror questions and I would like the community’s take on it. I believe that Siskel’s comment about damage to children may have been in reference to the actors not viewers. My question is how do child actors deal with being in a horror film? Especially one like Conjuring 2 or Exorcist where the child is participating on the antagonist end? My most disturbing example (walking dead spoiler) is when Carl has to execute his own mother. As emotional as that is on screen, it has to have some affect on the young actor. Does anyone know how the studio’s ensure the mental health of their youngest stars? It’s always in the back of my mind that, though viewing is restricted to mature audiences, someone had to go through the filming and be present in a much more physical way.

    Thanks,
    Mr. V

    • I believe they just make it very clear to the child actors that it’s all make believe. For example, in slashers, it’s not uncommon for the killer to try and bond some with the child actor so that when it’s time to act, it’s just a kid interacting with their big buddy that just happens to be wearing a mask. If things do get too intense for the child actor and they’re noticeably upset, they’d just call ‘Cut’ and give the child actor some time to cool down while doing their best to make them laugh.

      For most of the behind the scenes footage in horror movies and stories shared on talk shows, it seems as if most child actors are completely cool and are sometimes more relaxed than their adult counterparts.

      You also have to remember that what we see on the screen is only a limited amount of what is actually happening in a room. If there’s a scene with just a child actor and an actor as the killer, there’s going to be a ton of people on the other side of the camera, thus defusing a lot of the actual tension.

    • I found this article on Cracked.com (No idea how reliable the site is) that reveals that Danny Lloyd, who played Danny in the Shining, didn’t actually know he was filming a horror movie.

      “The little boy who played Danny, 6-year-old Danny Lloyd, had no idea he was acting in a horror movie. Stanley Kubrick, a man famous for not giving one screaming banshee fart for the comfort and safety of his actors, decided to spare Lloyd from seeing all the terrifying bullshit he was capturing on film while making one of the most famous horror movies of all time (this is the same man who, on the exact same film, tormented the lead actress so badly that her hair began to fall out). Evidently he had a soft spot for children.

      Lloyd just thought they were making a movie about a family in a hotel. He wasn’t even really sure how much he was getting paid to be there. He was only ever shown severely edited footage that took out all the scary parts, which essentially means he thought he was filming the most boring snoozefest ever created, because without the iconic scenes of terror, The Shining is a movie about three people wandering around in cavernous, brooding silence.

      Lloyd didn’t see the actual uncut movie until many years later as a teenager, and suddenly everything clicked into place — those two nice British girls with whom he used to play and share lunch in between takes? They were ax-murdered ghosts who wanted his soul. That nice Jack Nicholson man who did a funny tomahawk dance when Lloyd accidentally wandered on set one day? Jack was slobberingly hacking his way through a bathroom door to murder Lloyd’s onscreen mother only moments prior.

      For all his jimmy-legged, scraggly-bearded lunacy, Stanley Kubrick did his absolute best to make sure Lloyd didn’t experience any of the psychological horror he was wielding the boy to create. According to historical record, this is the closest to “doing something nice” that Stanley Kubrick ever got.”

      This is probably a pretty common thing in horror movies where the child actors are only exposed to a minimal portion of the film so that they don’t get a proper idea of what’s going on, thus greatly lessening the potential fear that could generate from filming horror movies.

  8. Hi guys

    Im a huge Chucky fan and I’m glad you’re reviewing the franchise! I always listen to the podcast at work – I work for PayPal in Dublin and I can confirm that to my knowledge (and to my great disappointment) there is no link between PayPal and PlayPals :)

    Keep up the good work, I love the podcast! Greetings from Ireland !

  9. Another fantastic episode, guys. I’m glad to see you tackling this franchise as I’m fresh off a viewing of “Cult of Chucky” as part of my own personal month of horror.

    I did, however, miss out on one of my favorite things in the world in the marathon that our local Alamo Drafthouse runs in October. BMD did a feature on it this year. The lineup was killer too featuring: “Slaughterhouse, Eaten Alive, Grizzly and El Dia de la Bestia”.

    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/10/17/remembering-lubbocks-dismember-the-alamo-2017

    Last thing I want to say is a huge thank you for this podcast. I’m a relatively recent convert who has nearly listened to the whole archive at this point but October has truly been a horrific month for my family as my father-in-law at the age of 54 is on his death bed right now due to pancreatic cancer. It has been a hellish nightmare watching someone we love so dearly wither away before our eyes and one of my few moments solace is listening to you guys discuss horror movies. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping keep horror alive, giving me a break from the real life terror unfolding before me and for keeping the quality film discourse comin’.

    • A hearty welcome good sir! I went through a similar experience with a close family member and watched them essentially wither away. To this day some body horror elements in movies still make me wince when they trigger those past feelings.

      Hope you stick around. We all float down here.

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